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Would you move Christian Cullen to wing too?

38 tries in 41 tests tells me you get the ball into Jordan’s hands as often as possible.

lol good advice!

The relevant point to make is that each have their test players contracted locally, so therefor there teams are selected locally. NZ is no different to those three in that respect, but are different to countries like SA, Wales, and Scotland who can't hold onto their stars.

Not sure why you're talking about journeymen for. That's the policy here though, theres not enough money for the clubs to keep them even if they aren't favoured for national duty, and DMac was clearly lined up to take over. But as I have said elsehwere, there is largely because neither BB or Mo'unga were working at the time the contracting happened.

And I'm not sure why people think that if NZR couldn't afford to keep Mo'unga, that they can afford to select him now (they can ofc, as money wasn't the issue I don't think). He's still going to want to get compensated the same, and because very little value is in that domestic scene, it would all be for the July thru Dec period that these guys bring in revenue. If Mo'unga is prepared to say, well I'm getting paid 2mil for the Dec thru June period, I'm happy to play for appearance fees only on top of that (think around 10k a game), then I'd certainly be happy with that.

He needs to work on his teams selection structure, because it certainly aint workring, whether thats that the individual coaches didn't put enough pressure on each other to exclude prejudice and overcome bias's ETC, or that you're asking for too much selection skill from so many coaches, they need to think about it.

Everyones got their own ventured interests.

He won 8 straight in the toughest comp in the world RugCs, don't make me keep repeating it to you mate, I get a bad rep for being like a typical AB fan..

You've lost the plot of you think Love should be the fullback. That is waaay more out of leftfield than anything else I've heard.

I'm not sure Jordan can remain in the team either way. What it actually sounds like you're saying, is you want a balanced approach Jordan playing fullback next year, that he gets say 6 or 8 games through to the RC and should be looked at being in immediate contention with someone like Love, or whoever else, has played well, for the November tour.

I'm absolutely down with that. Jordan is going to have a full SR season for the first time next year, to work on facets of his game that he's never had analyzed before because of only being selected on the wing by the All Blacks. That change is huge. You can not underestimate the learning experience that this year would have been and how valuable (touch wood) and full season will be actually targeting what he felt were work ons, rather than just making stuff up or trying to improve on his strengths.

So, first of all, we should expect him to return better than how he finished, and then we'd need to see some further improvement (if it he doesn't just immediatly smash it) over July and the RC. That doesn't mean we need to see him doing what you say. He can get on great at the top level with a very limited kicking and passing game (which would be a huge improvement over BB who had a limited and innacurate kick/pass game), we need to see him comfortable with he can do in making the right decisions first and foremost. So I'd be very happy to see him working on his strength in contact under high balls and covering the backline, not see him kicking the ball down defenders throats, and trying more interplay on his returns. What I can't see, is him improving as a right winger. All his wing player success is in the style of a fullback. Probably only pure speed (working really hard to get his body/speed back to 100) would help him imo, and that's obviously a hindrance to his chances as a fullback.

TLDR; I think the poor counter attacking ability of the All Blacks has been one of the key reasons their standards have dipped over the years, and what you're suggesting is promoting that continuing. No thanks. This is not a discussion of specific players like you're making out, but of your mentality of the ABs essentially continuing with the dual playmaker setup.

If you don't want to take my advise that you don't have a correct train of thought when looking at this subject, then that's at you problem.

TO BE CLEAR nothing of what you just said has anything to do with those performances not being valuable to a coach. You also fail to recognize the same team went within 1 point a few weeks later after they'd had time to evaluate. That is exactly how you can see who players you want can respond. With a bunch of injured players back the follow year they were still that +/- 1 against the ABs.

And everyone knows they were a complete mess. Their game was DESTROYED by the effects of transformation but it was a critical part of their progress, to which Rassie has done a marvelous job at balancing. I really don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

Ioane is a wing.

Both players chose to go because NZR weren't prepared to value them at their worth. They believed they were worse than how they ended up playing in 23 (both had signed overseas in 22).

No. It obviously doesnt start going down hill when the results start to get affected. Triggers happen years before they are played out in poor performances. I'm afraid you're not going to progress until you can look yourself in the mirror and say 'BB is symptomatic of NZs decline" HHT.