En 2e division anglaise, la pénalité vaut sept points

Ratima showed you just need a bit of intent and to take them low (he can bench 180 though to be fair) and those wingers go down.

I said it more for a dig at Rieko than anything.

They are doing some things very well that previous ABs teams have not been able to, but failing in other areas.

It has been very frustrating that teams like Italy and Argentina that have had a change of coaching staff in 2024 have immediately built on previous success and improved this year, whereas we have to accept for some reason with the ABs that a change of coach means that learning these "new systems" means the team has to become terrible for a period of time. Not that they would stagnate, but that they will get obviously worse, and actually play very poorly. It makes me think they are complicating things.

Also this team is not fit, which is why they can't close out a game.

The sooner people like you accept NZ is a multicultural society, the sooner this incredibly inaccurate myth can go away.

The change I would make is with so much versatility in the backline I don't think the ABs need to carry 3 backs on the bench.

I don't many of your backline would play two world cups though. Roigard and Ratima are the ones who would likely still be selectable by 2031 - you see very few outside backs, particularly from NZ, playing into their 30s.

Razor wants mounga, his quarterback…plain and simple.

“Factually accurate”, you’re a troll.

I would still expect Ireland to win v Argentina, but with them playing NZ the week before and I imagine Argentina targeting that game, its more 60-40 than 80-20. Should be a great match.

When a team wins the last 7 editions of a comp it's not trolling to suggest it's a farmers league. It's a factually accurate description.

Their school boys certainly tear it up. In school boys leagues. The next step in the pathway is U20s. They're tearing nothing up there at the moment.

Argentina beat a French b team - an impressive feat given France's depth, but given how handily Ireland beat the French first team this year its not a result that will worry Farrell particularly. The wins against New Zealand and South Africa are more substantial achievements, but both were very close games against weaker opposition than Ireland.

Get him to teach players how not to tackle - by using his own normal technique. Could be a nice little earner for thier union.

For $50 you can get a selfie with him and he can recreate his RWC red card.

Yeah we’d like mounga and Frizzell currently but that’s about it, they’ll be here for World Cup anyway. We’re thin in a couple positions as mentioned earlier…that’s just nature of the game but some younguns will fill the void quickly as we’ve always done.

Disagree on NH comps piddling on Super Rugby. To your point around “trolling”, calling super rugby a farmer league is just that…I’ll happily trot out a chiefs, blues or crusaders team against the best of NH club teams….isnt ex replacement first five for hurricanes Ihaia West the starting 10 at the best club? Speaks volumes.

Schoolboy teams are perennial winners, not the u20s but they’ll get there.