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John Kirwan contre les congés sabbatiques des All Blacks

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L’ancien All Black Sir John Kirwan estime que les congés sabbatiques pourraient être abandonnés après des performances internationales en recul.

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La clause sabbatique, qui permet aux meilleurs joueurs de disputer une saison à l’étranger tout en restant éligibles pour les All Blacks, a souvent été utilisée pour des passages au Japon, offrant aux joueurs des opportunités financières sans les exclure de la sélection.

Cependant, avec une baisse du taux de victoire des All Blacks, passé de 80 % à 70 % depuis 2020, Kirwan considère que cette politique pourrait être remise en cause.

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    The Breakdown discusses which match will be the toughest for the All Blacks on their upcoming Northern Tour. Having already beaten Japan (since filming this) they face England, Ireland, France, and Italy.

    « Les congés sabbatiques au Japon, c’est une bonne idée, mais les joueurs doivent comprendre qu’en partant, ils ont l’obligation de gagner avec les All Blacks », a déclaré Kirwan lors de l’émission The Breakdown diffusée sur RugbyPass TV.

    « Les congés sabbatiques au Japon sont probablement du passé, mais je suis favorable à ce que nos meilleurs joueurs soient disponibles pour les Blues, qu’ils participent au Super Rugby et jouent pour les All Blacks », a déclaré Kirwan.

    Des joueurs comme Sam Cane, Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea, Damian McKenzie et Sam Whitelock ont pris des congés sabbatiques ces dernières années pour jouer en League One au Japon, où ils peuvent générer des revenus importants en abandonnant le Super Rugby.

    Le dernier en date, Jordie Barrett, a signé un contrat de courte durée avec Leinster dans le cadre de son accord avec la NZR jusqu’en 2028.

    Si les informations de Kirwan sont correctes, cela pourrait signifier que la NZR adoptera une position plus stricte en matière d’éligibilité, à un moment où Scott Robertson, le sélectionneur des All Blacks, prévoit de proposer des dérogations pour ajuster les règles de sélection.

    Scott Robertson a exprimé son point de vue sur les règles d’éligibilité, en mettant l’accent sur ce qui serait le mieux pour l’équipe des All Blacks. Il a souligné la nécessité de maintenir un groupe compétitif en attirant les meilleurs joueurs tout en restant ouvert à l’idée d’offrir des opportunités à ceux qui ont montré de la loyauté envers la Nouvelle-Zélande.

    « Qu’est-ce qui est bon pour nous aujourd’hui ? Comment obtenir les meilleurs joueurs, la meilleure compétition et le meilleur groupe de All Blacks ? », a-t-il déclaré. « Et, potentiellement, si vous gardez l’esprit ouvert, vous pourriez envisager l’opportunité des joueurs qui ont montré beaucoup de loyauté envers nous. »

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    Cependant, Sir John Kirwan a vigoureusement contesté cette proposition de modification des règles, affirmant que la Nouvelle-Zélande ne pouvait pas se permettre de sélectionner des joueurs étrangers. Selon lui, une telle décision serait une « blague absolue », et il a rappelé que des pays comme l’Australie, qui ont modifié leurs règles de sélection au milieu des années 2010, n’ont pas connu de succès à long terme.

    « Il est absolument impossible que notre pays puisse se permettre de sélectionner des joueurs étrangers, c’est une blague absolue et la plupart des personnes qui veulent être sélectionnées à l’étranger sont celles qui sont déjà parties », a affirmé Kirwan.

    Il a aussi mis en garde contre les conséquences de suivre un modèle économique basé sur les offres étrangères, en prenant exemple sur l’Australie qui, selon lui, a régressé après avoir ouvert la porte aux joueurs évoluant à l’étranger. « Le monde est fragile, très fragile. Cela a-t-il aidé l’Australie ? L’Australie l’a fait et elle a régressé », a-t-il ajouté.

    Kirwan insiste sur le fait que la Nouvelle-Zélande doit trouver des solutions pour conserver ses meilleurs talents, car selon lui, il sera toujours difficile de rivaliser avec les salaires offerts à l’étranger.

    Cet article a été initialement publié en anglais sur RugbyPass.com et adapté en français par Willy Billiard.

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