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And don't bring depth into the convo, because having a lot of minutes as second choice does not automatically make you better (Thomas du Toit, I'm looking at you)

I just haven't seen the promising players that I saw coming through ten years ago. Very good yes, but not a level above the rest of the world like Eben and co were always destined to be.

Rassie has to give them experience because the goldens won't last forever and the generation after them was pretty average. It's definitely the right strategy. But I don't see them dominating 2027 and beyond.

And while they’re at it, can the refs start dealing with their constant player moving prominently in the eye line of the kicker at every opportunity. It’s just poor sportsmanship!!!

I can’t think of a single South African who has left SA straight out of school, Craven Week or even having started their professional careers in SA who are now playing abroad who are a loss to SA. Except maybe Duhan VDM.

We tend to keep the cream of the crop.

And even if they do leave, if they’re that good we’d pick them for the boks.

Without Runa Nortje, the Boks line out struggles, and there is exceptional locks in SA still very young. The back row with Elrigh Louw and Cameron Hanekom and some others from the other teams, very young and already world class.

The backline with players like SFM, AF, CM etc etc etc. I can name 2 young teams that can push for top honours easily. SA rugby is in excellent and very rude health. As a NZ you don't follow the URC not the Currie Cup as closely as the SA public.

The current schools rugby have some monster players too, but the speed and skills of the youngsters in the country is absolutely outstanding and what the current Boks have built, will be surpassed by them. Talent coming through, excluding school stars, is enough for another 20 years minimum.

What other country have that waiting in the wings? Waiting for the current generation to retire and thinking other teams will run over the Boks once they are gone is just wishful thinking.

Why do you think Rassie is giving so much young players opportunities? By the next WC, most of these youngsters will already have 30 - 40 Test caps. They will have faced the current best players over the world already. Experienced despite a tender young age. Saying the current players on the fringes is not up to snuff is just wrong.

The Boks beat the teams in the RC with experimental teams. Young and old. Lost 1 against the Argies by 1 point and what a game that was. Experimental squads, not the strongest squads.

The amount of injured Bok players alone could make a team. The Boks have 49 players Test games this year. Nope, you are definitely not knowing what you are talking about when it comes to the standards of SA rugby, just as little as others knows NZ rugby young talent.

I actually reckon that DMac is now a very good test fly half with plenty of upside as he gets more experience in the black ten jersey. Barrett is also playing at ten much better than under Foster. We're in a good position without RM and will be in a great position if he comes back.

But the popularity of the game that has extended from a traditionally white and/or middle class supporter base in SA into new corners has unlocked a whole new gene pool.

It’s something I think SA rugby is going to grow from strength to strength from. Which should worry the rest of the tier ones, most of whom are losing player numbers.

Everyone writes off the Boks. Bizarrely about the quality of their players, present, incoming, outgoing.

It’s like nobody noticed the meat factory that is South Africa. And nobody has noticed the wealth of talent coming through - African, Coloured, Black and White.

So I think we’ll be fine.