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Top 14 : Vannes n’y arrive toujours pas

Le demi d'ouverture français de Vannes, Thibault Debaes (à gauche), est plaqué lors du match de Top 14 entre l'USA Perpignan et le RC Vannes au stade Aimé-Giral de Perpignan, dans le sud-ouest de la France, le 2 novembre 2024. (Photo by IDRISS BIGOU-GILLES / AFP) (Photo by IDRISS BIGOU-GILLES/AFP via Getty Images)

Avec cette nouvelle défaite 32-13 à Perpignan samedi 2 novembre, le RC Vannes termine le premier bloc de la saison à la dernière place avec sept défaites en neuf matchs.

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Les deux seules éclaircies sont arrivées au Stade de la Rabine avec un 30-20 contre Lyon (21 septembre) et 34-28 face à Castres (26 octobre). Contre Toulouse, le Stade Français, Toulon, le Racing 92, Montpellier et Clermont, ça a été beaucoup plus compliqué.

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Et au lendemain de la trêve, le programme ne s’annonce guère plus optimiste avec la réception de Bordeaux (1er en date du 2 novembre) le 23 novembre et le déplacement à La Rochelle (3e) le week-end suivant.

« Pas de solution » selon Spitzer

« Il aurait fallu énormément de réussite pour espérer quelque chose. Il n’y avait pas de solutions aujourd’hui », regrettait Jean-Noël Spitzer, l’entraîneur du RC Vannes après le match à Perpignan, en pointant du doigt les axes d’amélioration.

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Joel Kpoku on life in the very physical French Top 14

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Joel Kpoku on life in the very physical French Top 14

« Ce n’est pas une désillusion, on a été sous pression par une très bonne équipe de Perpignan. Il aurait fallu faire un autre match sur la précision, la connexion, la réussite aussi pour espérer autre chose. Est-ce que c’est dû à nos insuffisances ou à la pression de l’adversaire ? Je n’ai pas senti qu’on pouvait faire basculer le match en notre faveur.

« On a été dominé en conquête sur la première mi-temps mais la pression de l’Usap sur le jeu au sol nous a empêchés d’avoir des sorties rapides. Avoir tous les ballons en touche, ce n’est pas si compliqué mais pouvoir les utiliser ensuite dans de bonnes conditions, c’est différent. Ça nous a privés de munitions et notre jeu derrière n’a pas été propre. »

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Petits Poucet du Top 14, les Bretons font la difficile expérience du très haut niveau français, eux qui pensaient qu’une victoire était possible à Perpignan, avant-dernier avant le coup d’envoi et qui devait faire avec plusieurs absences.

Phases statiques

7
Mêlées
8
71%
% de mêlées gagnées
63%
19
Touche
12
84%
% de touches gagnées
75%
7
Renvois réussis
4
86%
% de renvois réussis
100%

« Quand je vois l’infirmerie de Perpignan et la qualité des joueurs aujourd’hui, ça prouve la densité d’un effectif de Top 14 et le chemin qui nous reste à parcourir. Ce n’est pas une surprise », admet Spitzer.

A l’inverse, Guillaume Vilaceca (entraîneur adjoint de Perpignan), se déclarait satisfait : « J’ai bien aimé le caractère des joueurs, qui ont su réagir après deux essais refusés après visionnage vidéo. On a fait preuve d’une belle force collective. On est toujours dans le bon wagon du Top 14. »

La première participation de l’international italien Stephen Varney aurait donc pu être meilleure, lui qui est entré en jeu à la 55e minute.

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Le RC Vannes va désormais libérer ses internationaux :  Francisco Gorrissen et Juan Bautista Pedemonte pour l’Argentine, Iñaki Ayarza pour le Chili, Martin Alonso Muñoz pour l’Espagne et Charlesty Berguet, Jean-Maurice Decubber et Maurice Fromont pour la Belgique.


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Tom 5 hours ago
What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol!


It's incredible to see the boys playing like this. Back to the form that saw them finish on top of the regular season and beat Toulon to win the challenge cup. Ibitoye and Ravouvou doing a cracking Piutau/Radradra impression.


It's abundantly clear that Borthwick and Wigglesworth need to transform the England attack and incorporate some of the Bears way. Unfortunately until the Bears are competing in Europe, the old criticisms will still be used.. we failed to fire any punches against La Rochelle and Leinster which goes to show there is still work to do but both those sides are packed full of elite players so it's not the fairest comparison to expect Bristol to compete with them. I feel Bristol are on the way up though and the best is yet to come. Tom Jordan next year is going to be obscene.


Test rugby is obviously a different beast and does Borthwick have enough time with the players to develop the level of skill the Bears plays have? Even if he wanted to? We should definitely be able to see some progress, Scotland have certainly managed it. England aren't going to start throwing the ball around like that but England's attack looks prehistoric by comparison, I hope they take some inspiration from the clarity and freedom of expression shown by the Bears (and Scotland - who keep beating us, by the way!). Bristol have the best attack in the premiership, it'd be mad for England to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the Borthwick and Wigglesworth idea of how test rugby should be played. You gotta use what is available to you. Sadly I think England will try reluctantly to incorporate some of these ideas and end up even more confused and lacking identity than ever. At the moment England have two teams, they have 14 players and Marcus Smith. Marcus sticks out as a sore thumb in a team coached to play in a manner ideologically opposed to the way he plays rugby, does the Bears factor confuse matters further? I just have no confidence in Borthers and Wiggles.


Crazy to see the Prem with more ball in play than SR!

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JW 9 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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