David Havili set for Ranfurly Shield clash as 12 All Blacks released to NPC

I’m sorry but in terms of the ABs factor to suggest he would do otherwise is even more outrageous than suggesting ABs should take less to be able to play for them.

I’m certainly not suggesting that the ABs would wait 3 or 4 years while hes in rugby before selecting him for USA. He would certainly be in the team for 2027 as a 20’s player as well. How old was Lowe making his debut? Obviously from a pure development perspective he would have been better off starting younger but I don’t see why that would be a talking point.

NZ U20? Last two years have been good, why you asking? You know they easily beat Ireland and were probably the only team to give France a run for their money right? Personally I don’t put much stock in it, their were better players in the first year back (U20WC) but weren’t playing like it.

It wasn’t a criticism of him, I merely pointed out that he’s very adept at doing it (of away with the charge down still) so to have a ref finally call him out in your last home game is unfortunate.

Like Nick is guilty off, you can’t remove your bias when reading others posts/opinions.

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Ireland just couldn't cope physically, and lacked their point of difference with a very young 10 and, as Nick said, neither of their playmaker wings available.