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Are Ireland the real world champions? 5 England-Ireland talking points

By PA
Press Association

England and Ireland clash in round four of the Guinness Six Nations at Twickenham on Saturday, with the 142nd meeting between the rivals packed with significance and sub-plots.

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Here, the PA news agency examines five talking points ahead of the match.

The real world champions?
“Let’s be clear on Ireland – right now we can all agree they are the best team in the world,” were the words Steve Borthwick used when assessing England’s round four opponents, adding his voice to a theme that has developed throughout the tournament. Former Wales captain Sam Warburton holds a similar view that has been greeted with indignation in South Africa given the Springboks retained the World Cup last autumn.

It will take the rivals’ two-Test series in July to settle the debate, but for now Andy Farrell’s green machine appear invulnerable as they aim to become the first side to win back to back Grand Slams in the Six Nations era.

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Against all odds
The odds are startling – England are rated 4-1 to win with Ireland 1/5 to continue their Grand Slam march. It is hard to recall a more lopsided evaluation for a match at Twickenham and Borthwick’s men undoubtedly face a gargantuan task to rebound from their 30-21 mauling by Scotland, a game in which they made 25 handling errors and gifted 22 turnovers, and deny Ireland a fifth successive victory in the fixture. Murrayfield was the pivotal encounter for England, who must now topple the favourites and France in Lyon to avoid finishing the Six Nations with just two wins for a fourth successive year, a run that would evoke memories of the dark days of the early 1970s and mid 1980s.

Manny mania
Immanuel Feyi-Waboso’s inclusion on the right wing at the expense of Elliot Daly should thrill England fans even if the 21-year-old Exeter finisher has played only a handful of professional matches. Injecting genuine X-factor into the team, Feyi-Waboso has been told to go hunting for the ball in the hope his pace, strength and running lines can make a difference against the champions. But a cautionary tale can be seen in the similar trajectory of Henry Arundell, who exploded on to the scene amid a flurry of stunning tries but now plays in France and is unavailable as a result. It is a failure of England’s that they were unable to find him an ingoing role and they must ensure Feyi-Waboso’s vast talent is fully realised.

Head-to-Head

Last 5 Meetings

Wins
1
Draws
0
Wins
4
Average Points scored
16
29
First try wins
80%
Home team wins
80%

Clash of the Titans
It will be a duel to savour when young second row enforcers George Martin and Joe McCarthy go toe to toe. There is a thuggish-ness to both forwards as they look to inflict maximum damage on each side of the ball. And as they share similar stats across the board – both are 22-years-old, same height, comparable weights and experience – there is a real sense that this could be the first of many battles between the type of menacing tight five forward every team needs. Martin’s coming of age performance came against South Africa in the World Cup semi-finals, McCarthy’s against France in round one of this Six Nations. Neither will want to give an inch, the type of menacing tight five forward every team needs.

100 not out
If and when Danny Care steps off the bench at Twickenham, he will become the sixth England men’s player to reach the 100 cap milestone. The enduringly brilliant Harlequins scrum-half made his professional debut in 2003 and even at 37-years-old he is still playing the electrifying rugby that thrills audiences. One of the game’s most popular characters has done it the hard way too, long playing second fiddle to Ben Youngs and then having to resurrect his career, having been cast into Test exile after the 2018 ‘Black Hole Game’ against Japan.

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andre 298 days ago

The little six nations with its little league “ champion “ Ireland . No sorry. England 23-22 🙈

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Bull Shark 298 days ago

Are England the Real World Champions?

Haha

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Bull Shark 298 days ago

After the anthems, I always get so excited for the haka. Only to realise it’s Ireland playing.

Catches me everytime.

Go England!

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wisky 298 days ago

North hemisphere support support one of their own. Ireland can’t beat all black twice. Springbok proved to be that they are real deal in world cup….we score 4 tries in Twickenham beating all black 7:35 and repeat it again in final.

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Snash 299 days ago

Gee people have short memories - how do you go from losing a RWC 1/4 final (yet again) to best in the world in what 6 months - when the S. Hemisphere aren't even playing test rugby? Dream on, but sure does spice up the June/July two test series in SA. Very few win at Loftus, good luck with that Ireland.

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Jacques 299 days ago

Dear NH: Every single time you make these statements, they come back to haunt you. No, Ireland are not the best team in the world. For that to be true, go take on the world champions in their own backyard and give them a routing.

Should be a simple task for a team that - as I've been told by your outlets - is as good as the 2015 All Blacks.

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Dan 299 days ago

This is where he ignorant SH supporters - you know the ones too. Cheap and too thick to buy tickets to support their teams - spew a load of ignorant shite.

Then we laugh at them and acknowledge Ireland is clearly the best team in the world. Especially since the best bok player - Wayne Barnes - has retired

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PDV 299 days ago

The only team that benefits from Ireland being called the ‘best in the world’ is South Africa. I’m sure Ireland don’t want the tag unless they’ve proved it’s true. Borthwick’s transparent attempt to take pressure off England by praising Ireland makes his team look weak. On the other hand, being told you are not the world champions is just the sort of thing that will fire up the Boks. Rassie should send thank you notes to Borthwick and Warburton.

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Bull Shark 300 days ago

No. Ireland are not the real world champions. That was decided in 2023.

If I recall correctly they lost in the quarter finals. Which means they were outside the top 4 teams at the World Cup. So anything between 5th - 8th place. But they don’t give out medals outside the top 3. There are no prizes beyond bronze.

You’re welcome

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Michael 300 days ago

World Cup is over. It also is one tournament that lasts 1 month which gives you a badge for 4 years called world champions. Ireland are one of the best. South Africa are notoriously difficult to beat at home. The only benefits to Ireland this time is their used to going down there with their clubs. However, Ireland needs to bring a few new players down in the summer to play South Africa, and continue growing their relatively new rugby identity at the pinnacle of the game, against the best.

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JW 5 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

Of course not, but were not going to base our reasoning on what is said in one comment in a particular scenario and time, are we?


Actually, you are? Seriously?

Although Burke readily admits “I am driven by international rugby”, his final destination is still unknown. He could be one day replacing Finn Russell in the navy blue of Scotland, or challenging Marcus Smith for the right to wear a red rose on his chest, or cycling all the way home to the silver fern. It is all ‘Professor Plum in the billiards room with the lead pipe’ type guesswork, as things stand.

You yourself suggested it? Just theoretically? Look I hope Burke does well, but he's not really a player that has got a lot of attention, you've probably read/heard more him in this last few months than we have in his 4 years. Your own comments also suggest going overseas is a good idea to push ones case for national selection, especially for a team like NZ being so isolated. So i'll ask again, as no of your quotes obviously say one thing or the other, why don't you think he might be trying to advance his case like Leicester did?


Also, you can look at Leicesters statements in a similar fashion, where no doubt you are referring to his comments made while in NZ (still playing a big part of the WC campaign in his case). You should be no means have taken them for granted, and I'd suggest any other coach or management and he might not have returned (been wanted back).

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