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'A black wave': Victor Vito's tactical advice for All Blacks against Ireland

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It’s not easy to find fault in this Ireland team, but a former All Black with a wealth of international and club experience against the best of Irish talent has thrown in his two cents on how to put pressure on the damaging Irish attack.

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Victor Vito played over 30 games for the All Blacks, winning two Rugby World Cups before moving to France to play for La Rochelle.

Now reflecting on his experiences playing against Ireland’s best, Vito has delivered his verdict on just how beatable Andy Farrell’s team are, and what the All Blacks will have to do to compete with the world No 1s.

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“Their weaknesses, to be fair they don’t have many,” Vito told The Platform.

“But, look, I think we have what it takes to beat them. I think if we can get parity up front in the set piece, for sure, especially in those forward exchanges.

“I think if we can limit Johnny Sexton’s running time and actually have a black wave that’s coming forward all the time and forcing them to go backwards, they’ll be forced to kick, but that’s easier said than done.

“We can only do that as well if we stop hugging our rucks so much. We’ve been pretty tied to the rucks and we’ve been able to be rounded by most teams actually, getting outside us and we can’t afford that against Ireland because once they’re around you, they’re scoring points.

“If we can solidify our defence and force them to go back in every exchange, I mean, we did that with La Rochelle. We analyse Jamison (Gibson-Park), Johnny (Sexton) and all of the rest of them and we’ve beaten them in the last three Champions Cup finals, whether it was semi-finals or finals.

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“It’s not easy to do, but it’s definitely doable. The challenge is there and I know the boys will be up for it.”

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The match promises to be a confrontational contest, the battle for gain line will be hard won and go a long way in deciding the result.

The All Blacks have named destructive winger Leicester Fainga’anuku to start on the left wing, giving the team an extra ball running option and some more aggression around the wide breakdowns.

The selection will add some firepower in an effort to combat the dangerous form of Bundee Aki, who has been chewing through post-contact metres all tournament.

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Vito says it will be crucial for the All Blacks to assert themselves in the contact area, as the team needs to send a message early.

“I think you can’t really avoid that against a team like Ireland. You’re going to have to show them that you are abrasively there; that physically, you are present.

“But at the same time, if anything, I know that the Irish have a very strong 40 (minutes), they always come out very strong in the opening 40, and then the opening 20 of the second half.

“But if your wave can keep coming and if you can keep bringing in your power carriers like (Shannon) Frizell, and obviously Ardie (Savea) and a few other guys too, and if you can nullify someone like Bundee Aki – who’s a massive physical force for them, they rely heavily on him to go forward – if you can look after guys like that, then we’re in with more than a chance.”

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Konusi 435 days ago

I have no doubt the ABs winning the 2023 world cup they have so much good players in their team and it is only for each player to look at the little mistakes they've made at their last few games..All the best boys as you face Argentina 🇦🇷

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Kerry 436 days ago

NZ have the cattle to seriously hurt Ireland but Im afraid without Roigard and his synergy with Mckenzie its all over
Im predicting Lomax wont last the match

Hansen cant keep his mouth shut once again pouring praise on Ireland and underating NZs chances - the fix is in for NZ to lose this one - NZ made sure of that with their stupid insane school boy sanctioning of Mark Telea Who would want to play under such a surpressed culture
A minor curfew breach that results in team management announcing to the world his sinful state and their in house gentlemans club set in stone rules rewards and punishment infront of the worlds media and now the poor young man has to live his life walking around like Jesus holding up a heavy cross - absolute insanity and a national disgrace - Did they not think for one minute the blowback this would bring the ramfications - the harm its doing to their build up - they did and they dont care
We still love you Mark but we cant forgive you we cant move on without a punishment we arent adults we are children
Shand Foster Schmidt Cane Savea Whitlock where was your leadership and mentoring hello - this incident has left a stain on the ALL Blacks Brand Foster looked mighty skittery when that was announced whos running the show

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Poe 437 days ago

Do Ireland have the same defence coach as 2019?

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james 437 days ago

LF and JW screaming thru inside JB
10 minutes AB’s 15 - 0

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Poe 437 days ago

Ah the black wave. No one plays attacking rugby like the All Blacks. Ireland will struggle if this team clicks.

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Paul 437 days ago

I think yes if we can get parity and hang with them or near to it the Irish will run out of energy like they did against Scotland in the 3rd quarter. But that will be nullified if there’s time wasting where there’s always a player on the ground feigning injury to give their big men a rest. Hoping Barnes plays an up-tempo game.

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David 437 days ago

New Zealand are there for the taking, they’re mentally weak judging by the amount of losses they’ve taken, SA, France and Ireland have destroyed them with relative ease in the last few years. I expect cards for NZ as they look proper rattled and fearful. I’ve heard Foster has banned all women from the camp before kick off in case Frizell starts attacking them or Smith decides to drag one into the toilets.

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CO 437 days ago

Irelands heading back to a Wallaby type upside down type hellscape at the end of the tournament with a mass retirement frenzy and the 5 year residency rule bringing an end to the poaching so it is up to the Allblacks to ensure Lowe, Aki and Gibbon-Park are taught a lesson of the consequences of selling out before they scurry off.

Game could go either way though, potential for the Allblacks to struggle and win by only 15 or so in a hard fought contest but Allblacks will be benched if they don’t run up a similar scoreline to the Italy game.

Ireland is in reality an outfit renowned for their quarter final and pool exit chokes lead by a flyhalf that Farrell’s stolen from a museums antiquity display.

O’Mahony who’s full of banter will be welcomed back to the arena like a pair of Croc’s (I don’t care what anyone says they’re terrible footwear) and Porter, well Retallick has a bone to pick, a cheekbone to be precise with the world’s worst sweaty hair fiend.

I’m sitting on the fence for this match as a neutral Kiwi observer that’s contributed heavily to a new gold watch for Wayne Barnes.

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Ruggerhead 437 days ago

Yep, win the contact area and the ABs will score 40+

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Tom 1 hour ago
What is the future of rugby in 2025?

Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol! Briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiistol!


It's incredible to see the boys playing like this. Back to the form that saw them finish on top of the regular season and beat Toulon to win the challenge cup. Ibitoye and Ravouvou doing a cracking Piutau/Radradra impression.


It's abundantly clear that Borthwick and Wigglesworth need to transform the England attack and incorporate some of the Bears way. Unfortunately until the Bears are competing in Europe, the old criticisms will still be used.. we failed to fire any punches against La Rochelle and Leinster which goes to show there is still work to do but both those sides are packed full of elite players so it's not the fairest comparison to expect Bristol to compete with them. I feel Bristol are on the way up though and the best is yet to come. Tom Jordan next year is going to be obscene.


Test rugby is obviously a different beast and does Borthwick have enough time with the players to develop the level of skill the Bears plays have? Even if he wanted to? We should definitely be able to see some progress, Scotland have certainly managed it. England aren't going to start throwing the ball around like that but England's attack looks prehistoric by comparison, I hope they take some inspiration from the clarity and freedom of expression shown by the Bears (and Scotland - who keep beating us, by the way!). Bristol have the best attack in the premiership, it'd be mad for England to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the Borthwick and Wigglesworth idea of how test rugby should be played. You gotta use what is available to you. Sadly I think England will try reluctantly to incorporate some of these ideas and end up even more confused and lacking identity than ever. At the moment England have two teams, they have 14 players and Marcus Smith. Marcus sticks out as a sore thumb in a team coached to play in a manner ideologically opposed to the way he plays rugby, does the Bears factor confuse matters further? I just have no confidence in Borthers and Wiggles.


Crazy to see the Prem with more ball in play than SR!

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JW 5 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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JW 11 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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