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All Black Ardie Savea close to joining Moana Pasifika – report

Ardie Savea of New Zealand celebrates victory at full-time following the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Moana Pasifika are close to completing what would be the biggest signing in the club’s history with All Blacks vice-captain Ardie Savea reportedly on the brink of joining the team.

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As reported by The New Zealand Herald’s Liam Napier on Friday, Savea is “at the pointy end” of negotiations with New Zealand Rugby over a new deal that includes conversations about committing through to the 2027 Rugby World Cup.

Savea, 30, is also looking to finalise his playing future in Super Rugby Pacific after returning to New Zealand following a sabbatical with Kobe Steelers in Japan. The reigning World Rugby Player of the Year was expected to return to the Hurricanes but that might not be the case.

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As the New Zealand-based journalist explained, there have been rumours about Savea signing with Moana Pasifika but an official announcement is expected next week once the All Blacks return home after playing Fiji in San Diego.

The Herald has reported that Savea is “likely” to sign with the team based out of Auckland, which could see the All Black take the field with brother Julian, who played 54-Tests for New Zealand

The move would also see Savea fulfil what seems to be a long-held dream of representing Samoa, albeit in Super Rugby Pacific as opposed to the international arena at this stage.

“If you were to ask me four years ago, I would have loved to play for Samoa and put the jersey on,” Savea told Jim Hamilton on Walk the Talk earlier this year.

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“But right now, I’m getting older and I think I’d be doing a disservice to the jersey if I was to just go there when I’m older.

“We’ll see, but with the rules of stand-down being three years, it’s just a long time.

For me, I want to give back to Samoa in different ways,” he added.

“It might be going back home and helping out the kids there or doing something like that in my village.

“It might not be representing them on an international stage but just doing something to give back.”

In their third season in Super Rugby, Moana Pasifika showed genuine signs of promise as they finished the 14-game regular season with four wins. They may have finished second-last, but this isn’t a side that wasn’t that far off the mark.

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Moana Pasifika beat Fijian Drua 39-36 in early March, and later recorded wins over the Western Force in Perth, the Queensland Reds in New Zealand and the NSW Waratahs at Auckland’s Go Media Stadium.

As for the Hurricanes, the decision for Savea to potentially not return to Wellington will come as a big blow. They have quality depth in the backrow with options including Braydon Iose, Du’Plessis Kirifi, Peter Lakai and more, but Ardie Savea is Ardie Savea after all.

With the Hurricanes looking to build on their semi-final finish in 2024, the addition or return of Savea for the next year’s campaign would’ve come as a major boost but other opportunities are there for the taking.

Watch the exclusive reveal-all episode of Walk the Talk with Ardie Savea as he chats to Jim Hamilton about the RWC 2023 experience, life in Japan, playing for the All Blacks and what the future holds. Watch now for free on RugbyPass TV

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Jon 125 days ago

Would be a great move by Ardie, respect.
Fiji team to play New Zealand:

  1. Eroni Nawa 28-year-old 1.89 m 131 kg - Rugby World Cup starter - 350minutes for Saracens back up to Mako Vunipola but has much better carry stats this year\n\n
  2. Tevita Ikanivere 24 y/o 1.82 m 114 kg - RWC impact to Northampton Saints starter Sam Matavasi but won the starting spot for knockout qf match - Drua rake and much more lively stats on the carry that Matavasi but maybe more raw than the Saints veteran. Behind Asafo Aumua still in all stats (still very impressive). Got the starting spot over Asafo Aumua in Alun Wyn Jones testimonial\n\n
  3. Mesake Doge 31 y/o 1.80 m 122 kg - RWC impact to Bayonnes starter Luke Tagi\n\n
  4. Isoa Nasilasila 24 y/o 1.97 m117 kg - RWC and Drua starter\n\n
  5. Temo Mayanavanua 26 y/o 1.97 m 120 kg - RWC impact to Drua Kiwi Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta - more dominant tackler and impact player for Northampton Saints behind Top 14 bound Alex Moon\n\n
  6. Lekima Tagitagivalu 28 y/o 1.95 m 110 kg - RWC starter at both openside and blindside but has spent half his career locking - Pau everywhere man, started in their euro knockout loss\n\n
  7. Kitione Salawa 23 y/o 1.92 m 95 kg - Drua’s new boy tearaway, one of the leading, if not the best per 80minutes turnover mechants in Super Rugby\n\n
  8. Viliame Mata 32 y/o 1.96 m 116 kg - Fiji and European star\n\n
  9. Frank Lomani 28 y/o 1.80 m 81 kg - RWC test 9 - Best try involvements 9 in SR for the Drua behind Ratima and TJP\n\n
  10. Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula 20 y/o 1.75 m 86 kg - Test rookie comes in in place of Test and Drua star Ilaisa Droasese who might have had flight or visa issues I suppose.* *\n\n
  11. Semi Radradra - enough said\n\n
  12. Inia Tabuavou 21 y/o 1.85 m 101 kg - Youngster has had some good minutes and stats filling in at Racing 92\n\n
  13. Waisea Nayacalevu 34 y/o 1.93 m 105 kg - RWC starter and captain - Dominant carrier for Toulon when asked to return early after the WC but injured for the season shortly after which saw Leicester .\n\n
  14. Jiuta Wainiqolo 25 y/o 1.87 m 97 kg - Has some crunching numbers for Toulon on the wing along side his captain\n\n
  15. Vilimoni Botitu - Promoted to flyhalf for the RWC quarter finals after injuries - Has mostly had minutes for castres as inside center
Reserves
  1. Zuriel Togiatama - Drua impact
  2. Haereiti Hetet - Drua #1
  3. Samu Tawake - Drua impact
  4. Albert Tuisue - Fiji and Gloucester impact player
  5. Elia Canakaivata - Late 20s in his second pro year (Drua) by the looks must have come through Fiji pathways or 7s
  6. Simione Kuruvoli - Test backup and a player many though was best impact at RWC
  7. Caleb Muntz - Seen as leader at 10 but regularly injured after coming from English Championship
  8. Sireli Maqala - RWC player and Bayonne center
Missing players
Isefo Masi - Star center of Super Rugby for the Drua at the Olympics playing 7’s I think
Josua Tuisova - Fiji’s inside center at RWC got little minutes this Top 14 season so suspect injured still only 30 - Reports about managing his minutes and his body, looks like Toulon have put the hard word on him not to play until November window (back from injury around June)
Levani Botia - RWC star but getting on in years and injured toward back of Top14, hopefully not the same as above
Vinaya Habosi - Another RWC star winger who finished his Top 14 season recently after having a 3 month (injury?) layoff in the middle. Not scoring any tries. Hopefully partaking in 7VNS and not blocked by Racing 92 as he’s just gone missing to my sluthing
Mesake Vocevoce - Breakdown beast of a lock for a young fella in 2024 Drua
Selestino Ravutaumada - Probably Drua’s best attacking back and one who I also confuse for his older captain, their RWC wing and at the Olympics as well
Meli Derenalagi - Block buster 8 for the Drua

Please add a reply if you know better about any of these players (and there wereabouts if not playing)

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SadersMan 125 days ago

Fake news according to “reliable sources”.

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Sara 125 days ago

Gutted to see him go from the Canes, but good on him for supporting his home island. As long as he’s still an All Black, I’m happy

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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