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All Black backs Ardie Savea to succeed Sam Cane as New Zealand captain

Ardie Savea of New Zealand celebrates victory at full-time following the Rugby World Cup France 2023 Quarter Final match between Ireland and New Zealand at Stade de France on October 14, 2023 in Paris, France. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Flanker Dalton Papali’i has endorsed reigning World Rugby Player of the Year Ardie Savea to take over the All Blacks captaincy following Sam Cane’s shock retirement announcement on Monday.

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New Zealand’s incumbent skipper Cane, who led the team to the final of last year’s Rugby World Cup in France, will step away from international duty at the end of the 2024 Test season.

Cane, 32, has played 95 Test matches and has a chance of becoming the All Blacks’ 13th centurion before heading to Japan after signing a three-year deal with Tokyo Sungoliath from next season.

The Rugby World Cup winner will still be eligible to don the black jersey this year as he’s on sabbatical with the Tokyo-based club at the moment, but that will change next year.

While coach Scott Robertson has remained tight-lipped on who the new skipper will be, Blues and All Blacks flanker Dalton Papali’i has backed Ardie Savea to step into the role.

“I don’t really have a say but last year when Sam Cane was injured, Ardie stood up in that position and he probably might be the next captain,” Papali’i said on Tuesday.

Cane’s impending departure also opens the door for a new man to follow in the footsteps of All Blacks giants by making the No. 7 jersey their own throughout the new World Cup cycle.

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As well as Michael ‘Iceman’ Jones, two-time World Cup-winning captain Richie McCaw achievement unprecedented feats in that jersey and Cane was a worthy successor.

In the years to come, Papali’i appears to be in a prime position to become the All Blacks’ first-choice openside flanker after already amassing 32 Test appearances so far in his Test career.

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Hurricanes duo Peter Lakai and Du’Plessis Kirifi are other worthy contenders to enter the fray of Test rugby as openside flankers, but Papali’i would have to be considered the frontrunner.

“They were both leaders,” Papali’i explained of both McCaw and Cane. “They were both All Black captains, so those are pretty big boots to fill, to be honest.

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“But the good thing that we talk about is you don’t own the jersey, you just fill it with your legacy.

“I’m not going to try and be like Richie McCaw or be like Sam Cane, I want to fill it with my own flavour and my own personality.

“It’s going to be interesting,” he added.

“I’m still focusing on the Blues here, so I haven’t really thought of that at the moment, but with Sam Cane – getting to play with him and seeing the character he is and the man he is – it was a bloody privilege to be in a team with him and be captained by him.”

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Troy 300 days ago

Let’s make them both Capt. I think we'd get the best of both of them and it would help alleviate some of the pressures of the role. They'd have to confer over on field decisions which should lead to “ learnings “ for both. They are our two best consistent performers.

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Flatcoat 300 days ago

Our best player by far..but not a good Captain..poor tactician cost the AB'S and Canes games by not taking the easy points and going for tries when the lineouts were a shambles..can he read a game? And his throat slitting gesture should disqualify him from the AB Captaincy..it is not the appropriate behaviour of an AB Captain.

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Pete 301 days ago

Not sure why Papali’i thinks Scott Robertson needs his help to select the next All Black Captain.
In my view, Papali’i would be well advised to have a good hard look at his own game, and to reflect on how fortunate he is to even wear the black jersey. Rather than shouting at his team mates at every set piece, standing in the mid-field pointing and holding his arms out and flopping to the ground at the back of every second or third ruck, may I suggest he would be far better employed actually doing something on the field.
Seriously, watch him for 10 minutes during a game - not much happens. When was the last time he was first to a breakdown, or actually made a turnover?
If Robertson is half the Coach I think he is, Papali’i will not be anywhere near the AB’s this season.

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Jasyn 302 days ago

No thanks. Savea almost always leaves easy points out there and goes for the corner, no matter how many times it’s not working.

He claimed he took “the learnings” from this when he kept making the same mistake against the Boks a few years ago. Then went out the very next week and did the same thing and SA snatched victory because of it. Years later he still does it, right up to and including the world cup final.

Great player, not so great rugby nous.

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Scott 302 days ago

Dalton Papalii will be lucky to be selected on the Matchday 23.

Ardie Savea, Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson, and Peter Lauki are all as good or better openside flankers

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Scott 302 days ago

Scott Barrett is a lock and they have a much longer shelf life than a loose forward.

Far more likely that Barrett will still demand a starting position based on performance at age 33 at RWC 2027 than Savea, whose explosive athleticism will have declined and he will in all likelihood have been surpassed by Hoskins Sotutu, Wallace Siti, Peter Lauki and Brayden Iose.

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Nickers 302 days ago

Coin flip between Ardie and Scott Barrett. Both have their pros and cons, and both would probably be decent. Ardie has way more passion on the field, but that hasn’t always translated into the best decisions. They will both turn 34 at the next World Cup, so both will most likely have their best days a few years behind them. It’s hard to imagine now, but looking at young players coming through Ardie will probably be under the most pressure to retain his place in the team.

Beauden Barrett also an outside chance if Razor sees him as the first choice 10.

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MattJH 302 days ago

I think they’ll choose Scott Barret as captain, Ardie 7, Hoskins 8, Finau at 6.

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swivel 303 days ago

Daltons a great guy and can lead at any level with that humility

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SK 1 hour ago
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Why and how have the Springboks leaped ahead in terms of innovation? It all comes down to Erasmus and the coaching culture he has built. The Springboks are masters in innovation because they know what winning rugby is and they know that they need to do to evolve and stay ahead. Erasmus chooses to be proactive rather than reactive. He had Nienaber institute his rush and his defensive IP when he joined. He had Felix Jones institute his IP on both attack and defence. When the law changes came in he brought in Tony Brown to add his IP so the Springboks could evolve their attack knowing the same old formula would not work. Now that Flannery has taken the defensive reins, he has been fine tuning Nienaber’s structure and making his own mark. Erasmus doesn’t stand in the way of his coaches. He empowers them and lets them add to the balance. He doesn’t try to dictate, he takes in information and adapts to changes. There is consensus in the group which allows them to all pull in the same direction and allows the Springboks to evolve. He has created a learning environment and succession planning. Stick and Davids are high quality coaches in their own right adding so much value to the set up but imagine the IP they must have gained learning from some of the games leaders in a wide variety of coaching areas. Erasmus has empowered them to succeed. He is now doing the same with Vermeulen and mentoring him. He used Proudfoot and later Human to get an edge in the specialist area of scrummaging and used Walters and Edwards to shape Springbok player conditioning to give them a physical edge and manage the physical needs of the players expertly. Erasmus does not dominate his coaches, he gives them a free hand, he guides them and guides the overall plan. He is a master man manager and motivator and not a dictator. He brings in coaches that add value and who can guide the evolution of the gameplan so that the Boks can win. What sets the Springboks apart is not just the IP they have gained but how they are using it.

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Bull Shark 2 hours ago
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Nice one Nick. I used to think New Zealand were the masters of gleaning information from their coaches from across the globe. And always felt that SA was missing a trick of their own. Until we started exporting coaches much like New Zelaand does.


Rassie will long be remembered for putting the boks back on track and then on top of the pile. A legend for what he has done, love or hate him.


Long may it last, because of course teams have seasons. We’ve seen the ABs and now possibly the Irish seasons change.


I think what you are hitting on for me is that the health of the coaching pipeline, the quality of the coaches being developed is the best indicator of where sustainable results for international teams will come from.


I think England and Australia have some potential in terms of coaches out there and developing. How and if that is ever successfully brought into the national setup in a thoughtful, integrated way stands to be seen.


Because that’s where Rassie (who had cited the ABs in particular in this regard) has actually been his most successful. Making the springboks the ultimate goal, getting the systems to at least work in some synchronous way despite politics and competing interests. And in a country like SA!


When he moves on from coaching the boks, I sincerely hope World Rugby considers him for some role. Or at least - I hope he leads SA rugby. Perhaps as president of SA rugby.


The man’s mouth might not always seen as coming from the right place but his heart is. And he is a true leader.


PS. I don’t see a lot about France in my feed - and I should look more deeply, but while France has resources currently, I’m not sure what their coaching stocks look like and across the globe. Galthie seems like a generational coaching talent.


PPS. It will be interesting to see how many player turned coaches emerge out of this current springbok era. I think there are a few players who show great potential as future coaches. Having experienced Rassie, and possibly being encouraged and influenced in that direction.


Apart form Vermeulen, I suspect Frans Steyn might make a little dent coming out of the Free State. He’s a good man too. And I think he has good game smarts. He leads with heart too.


I have read that Willie le Roux is another potential. Although I think he’s bat sh1t crazy!


I have a feeling Kitschoff might make a move into coaching too. There are a lot of good rugby brains in the player group. The future looks bright for SA in this regard and with Rassie directing things in some further bigger picture role, I think this bodes well for us and sustaining a season of success for the boks.

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Spew_81 2 hours ago
Stat chat: Clear favourite emerges as Sam Cane's All Blacks successor

Do they want to replace Sam Cane and his capabilities? Or do they want something different? What do they want from the loose forward trio?

 

If the All Blacks to want to play their flowing, offloading game. They need more players who can bend/brake tackles and offload. That was one of the weaker aspects of Sam Cane’s game.

 

In 2024 the All Blacks set piece returned to world class. The ruck and maul work was good. The goal kicking and punting was good enough. You would’ve expected an All Blacks team, with those positives, to dominate. But most of the games were uncomfortably close for their liking. Part of the reason is that rush defences are extremely effective at countering the ‘offloading game’.

 

To get the ‘offloading game’ working, they need more power runners. Having a true left wing, Caleb Clark, made a difference. Roigard made a difference at 9. The midfield seems to be under achieving, but the backs aren’t the focus of this article.

 

The front row’s running game is good. As with the locks'; Vaa’i really broke through last year. If Holland gets in, he could reproduce the consistent ‘go forward’ that Retallick delivered; while also having more height and work rate than Tuipulotu.

 

That leaves the loose trio. Savea is a good all around openside. While he’s not the cleanout/tackle/turnover machine that Cane was, Cane did not have Savea’s running game. The question is – does one player have to be the cleanout/tackle/turnover machine – or can it be split between the pack?

 

Sititi is mobile, a solid lineout option, and has openside skills. Vaa’i is mobile and multiskilled for a lock, so is Holland. Finau is a formidable runner and tackler, and is a genuine lineout option. Suafoa has great potential as a blindside/lock reserve. Peter Lakai can cover all three loose roles.

 

So maybe: 4) Vaa’i, 5) Holland, 6) Finau, 7) Savea, 8) Sititi, 19) Suafoa, 20) Lakai?

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