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All Blacks dared to put 'record on the line' in 'biggest game in 2025'

Ardie Savea and Scott Barrett of the All Blacks look on during the International Test Match between New Zealand All Blacks and England at Eden Park on July 13, 2024 in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

The All Blacks will return to New Zealand this week wondering what might have been after two narrow losses to South Africa.

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The visitors held the advantage heading into the second half at both Emirates Airline Park and the DHL Stadium, only to see the world champions grind them down, aided by their bench, to earn back-to-back victories and take a huge stride towards the Rugby Championship title.

But for a team with a new head coach, a spate of injuries and entering a new era following the retirements of many greats after last year’s World Cup, there were many positives to take from the tour. For a team that is well-accustomed to winning, that may be scant consolation.

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Most importantly, Scott Robertson will know that his side can compete with the world champions and current world number ones. And with the Springboks making their way to New Zealand in next year’s Rugby Championship, they may have their chance to exact revenge.

Ahead of 2025, former Springbok Hanyani Shimange has laid the ultimate challenge at the All Blacks’ feet by daring them to host Rassie Erasmus’ side at Eden Park.

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The All Blacks brought up their half-century of consecutive victories at Eden Park against Argentina in round two of this year’s Championship, a run that dates back to 1994.

On this week’s upcoming episode of RugbyPass TV’s The Boks Office, Shimange said it will say a lot about New Zealand rugby if they are not willing to “put that record on the line”.

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“Please, can we play them at Eden Park next year?” he said.

“They have to put that record on the line. A lot’s going to be said about New Zealand rugby if next year the schedule comes out and they’re trying to protect their record and they don’t take us to Eden Park. It has to happen.

“If they back themselves and believe in Eden Park, then surely you want to play the current world champions at Eden Park.”

Fellow Boks Office regular Schalk Burger was less keen on the idea, however.

“No one’s winning at Eden Park ever. That’s done,” the former South Africa flanker added

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“It’s not even Eden Park, we went to Mount Smart and got absolutely smashed last year. I don’t think Auckland’s the place we want to go to, but they can take us to Wellington any time.”

This week’s guest, EggChasers Rugby Podcast co-host Tim Cocker, added: “If that game happens, that’s the biggest game in 2025, it hurts me to say because it’s the British and Irish Lions tour.”

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NS 68 days ago

We need big bodies to match European and South African Team. NZ got them in heaps. The end of the year Northern Hemisphere tour is coming and it is the perfect time to realign and makes changes.

Firstly, a few pointers for Razor. BB and DMAc are not 1st Fives. As long as these two start all blacks will never win big games. Pick only one in the reserve for big games as cover for FB. Richie Moanga is ok and better than BB and DMAc at 1st five. If Richie is available BB and Dmac should never be picked.

Secondly, Rico has to go. Rico is the reason why all blacks did not win the world cup. It was lost in the quarter final when he sledged departing Irish player. Perhaps if he had performed a haka and bring him to tears rather than derail him in his last day, Rugby Gods will be smiling at AB. It is karma. Like Gregans "wait 4 more years" Sledge and Australia lost the final to England

On the other hand, you see the South African players will never ever do such acts and go down that low. They are very respectful and good people and they will keep winning. Rugby Gods will make South Africa win and they will keep winning unless Scott makes these changes

Thirdly, Don't let Sam Cane go. All Blacks have to keep him for big games. All Blacks Maul Defense is good because of him. Just keep him at test level and no other Rugby or very minimal club Rugby. Young loosies should hang around with Cane and learn about humility and respect

A message to BB, Dmac, Rico, Ardie Savea and TJ. Please make yourselves unavailable for 2 years. Ardie you are good but not a Back Row. You are too light.

That out of the way, now let’s select the team.

Front row sorted out by Jason Ryan. Won’t talk about it.

Locking sorted out with Tupou, Scott, Darry, Pat Tuipulotu and Josh Lord

Loosies. Do away with Ardie for a while. Go with Siti, Sotutu, Cane, Ethan, Jacobson, Papalii and Finau

Young stars like Satiti and Finau have to be grounded and train hard in the gym and bulk up for the next world cup. Sotutu has to work harder off the ball.

Half Backs: TJ out.  Cam Roigard [has to learn to scream and communicate game time], Ratima and Noah Hotham

Back Line:            1st Five: Harry Plummer [Inside center Cover]

                                2nd five: JB [Fullback and first five cover]

                                Outside Centre: Billy Proctor

                                Wings: Clarke and Will Jordon [Fullback Cover]

                                Fullback: Ruben Love [1st Five Cover], Zarn Sullivan

Wings: Shaun Stevson [Fullback Cover], Talaea and Narawa

Centre: Quinn Tupaea, Umaga Jenson Brothers - need big boys, ALB

Messaage to BB, DMac, Ardiae, Rico and  TJ. If you want All Backs to evolve and be world leaders again, please make yourselves unavailable for 2 years. Please just do it for your country. You will come back stronger in 2 years.

New Zealand team reminds me of NSW State of Origin. They always had the best players in their positions but never selected them in their position until Madge came and now NSW will be untouchable.

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Tv 69 days ago

I think the AB’s must forget about thinking whether they can compete with the Springboks. They lost. That is the final word on that. They need to start concentrating on their own game. Their DNA. They have two tests against a mediocre Wallaby side to find it as things will not become easier for them after that as France, Ireland and England await them in Europe.

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Bruiser 69 days ago

The ABs arnt running scared of the Boks. Looking forward to being at the Park next year

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Tv 69 days ago

That will never happen. The same reason why they did not play Ireland at the Park.

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Forward pass 69 days ago

Geez a good year and the Boks go all ferrel. NZR will schedule the tests anywhere they damn well decide to schedule them.

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GH 69 days ago

The will play the bokke at Eden Park next year.


No doubt about that.


Nz will also beat the Boks 2-0 in 2025.

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BP 67 days ago

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Ninjin 69 days ago

They would have beaten The Irish 3-0 in 22 and they also would have beaten the Springboks in the world cup final again in 23 just like they did in 95. And now you say they will beat the Springboks 2-0 at home in 25. Let us wait and see what happens against Ireland and France first in November before we start predicting 2025. I am actually looking forward to the Nz vs Aus first game. You might destroy them or they might surprise you just like the Argies did.

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DP 69 days ago

1-1 next year. Boks have plenty of gears in them and will keep improving as will the ABs. We shall see either way..

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DP 69 days ago

They will do it. It just adds that extra little bit more to a test we're already looking forward to.

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Mitch 69 days ago

Hanyani Shimangi will get his wish.

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Ninjin 69 days ago

I think it is a wonderful idea and it will be the #1 game of 25 nevermind the B&I and SH imports team in Aus. What will make it even better is if Sa and Nz could be 1 and 2 in the world at that point (does not matter which one is 1 and which is 2) with something like a win to decide the #1 spot. Mix in Eden park with it's rich rugby history, the 4 on the trot win/lose stat and we might just have a game of the decade in the making.

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Tom 58 minutes ago
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That 2019 performance was literally the peak in attacking rugby under Eddie. If you thought that was underwhelming, the rest of it was garbage.


I totally get what you're saying and England don't need or have any God given right to the best coaches in the world... But I actually think the coaches we do have are quite poor and for the richest union in the world, that's not good enough. 


England are competitive for sure but with the talent pool up here and the funds available, we should be in the top 3. At the very least we should be winning six nations titles on a semi-regular basis. If Ireland can, England definitely should.


England's attack coach (Richard Wigglesworth) is Borthwick's mate from his playing days at Saracens, who he brought to Leicester with him when he became coach. Wigglesworth was a 9 who had no running or passing game, but was the best box kicker in the business. He has no credentials to be an attack coach and I've seen nothing to prove otherwise. Aside from Marcus Smith’s individual brilliance, our collective attack has looked very uninspiring.

 

England's defence coach (Joe El-Abd) is Borthwick's housemate from uni, who has never been employed as a defence coach before. He's doing the job part time while he's still the head coach of a team in the second division of French rugby who have an awful defensive record. England's defence has gone from being brutally efficient under Felix Jones to as leaky as a colander almost overnight.


If Borthwick brings in a new attack and defence coach then I'll absolutely get behind him but his current coaches seem to be the product of nepotism. He's brought in people he's comfortable with because he lacks confidence as an international head coach and they aren't good enough for international rugby.


England are competitive because they do some things really well, mostly they front up physically, make a lot of big hits, have a solid kicking game, a good lineout, good maul, Marcus Smith and some solid forwards. A lot of what we do well I would ascribe to Borthwick personally. I don't think he's a bad coach, I think he lacks imagination and is overly risk averse. He needs coaches who will bring a point of difference.


I guess my point is, yes England are competitive, but we’re not aiming for competitive and I honestly don't believe this coaching setup has what it takes to make us any better than competitive.


On the plus side it looks like we have an amazing crop of young players coming through. Some of them who won the u20 world cup played for England A against Australia A on the weekend and looked incredible... Check out the highlights on youtube.

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