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All Blacks fail to sell out 20,000 seater Orangetheory Stadium

Christchurch's Orangetheory Stadium (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

The All Blacks have so far failed to sell out Orangetheory Stadium ahead of their match with Los Pumas this weekend.

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The stadium – which holds just 20,000 seats – is yet to be filled, despite it being the first time in six years that New Zealand have played a Test in the city. Organisers have already added 3,000 temporary seats, but it looks like they won’t be needed.

It’s forecast to be a brisk 7 degrees for kick-off with rain unlikely, but it seems Cantabrian rugby fans are still opting to watch the game from the comfort of their living rooms.

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Local interest in the squad isn’t to blame either, with the majority of the current side being made up of the Crusaders’ finest.

Some have blamed the fact that NZR have appeared to snub Crusaders head coach Scott Robertson for the All Blacks’ top job, preferring instead to persist with the misfiring Ian Foster instead. Writing in the NZ Herald, Hamish Clark asked: “Why is Christchurch not a sellout? If Razor was the coach, the tickets for next week’s test match would be as good as gone! Christchurch is rugby mad.”

The stadium – formerly known as Rugby League Park – was originally a stop-gap measure after the 38,000 Lancaster Park was severely damaged by the 2011 earthquake. However, ten years on and Orangetheory Stadium is still very much in use by the rugby union, and with the refurbished Lancaster Park not set come online until 2025 at the earliest, they’ll be there for some time yet.

The question being askedin some quarters is why is a far larger stadium being built in Christchurch when not even the All Blacks can sell 20,000 tickets for a Rugby Championship game at the smaller Orangetheory Stadium.

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“I actually played in Jade Stadium too, or the old AMI, played in the last Test match there,” said All Blacks lock Sam Whitelock. “Then I saw what the whole community went through not just here in Christchurch but the whole greater area, the things that people went through whether they were a five-year-old kid waiting for their parents to come pick them up from kindergarten after a number of different earthquakes and tremors, whether they were an older person put under stress that way. So it is great to have Test match rugby back here in Christchurch.

“I know it affected the community just before the World Cup, losing all those Test matches through the World Cup. So it’s great to be back and it’s a little bit surreal when you start looking around, there’s not actually a lot of people that were playing professional rugby when those earthquakes happened in the team so it’s nice to be able to pass on some of those messages we’ve had through the years that have gone past through playing here as All Blacks.

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“There’s definitely a buzz and there’s a lot of people coming from a long way away that can get to the game that are pretty excited. I know there are a lot of kids that it’s their first chance to come and get to the game. Fingers crossed it’s a nice still night out there and not so cold.”

Foster’s side have have named an unchanged starting line-up with the only change coming on the bench where Stephen Perofeta is poised for his test debut after replacing the injured Beauden Barrett

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Brian 849 days ago

I just hope the new stadium is designed right. To make going out better than staying home.

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Jonathan 849 days ago

It's a beautiful sunny day here in Õtautahi/Christchurch, and the All Blacks are playing one of my other favourite teams in Los Pumas. Normally I'd be champing at the bit to see this live - but not while Foster is in charge. He never should have been coach and it's a joke that he was let off the hook. I'll be back supporting rugby once he's gone.

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Bruce 849 days ago

It has nothing to do with the game dying etc. It has everything to do with the stadium. I was talking to a guy who lives in Christchurch earlier this year and he told me that after experiencing the stadium in the middle of winter he has given up going. He loves the team but it is just an awful stadium.

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Jmann 849 days ago

It's a mistake to attribute this to the game and not the awfulness of that temporary stadium and the Chch winter. Click bait and nothing else

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GrahamVF 849 days ago

We get 22000 people watching a club game at Stellenbosch. NZ rugby is dying.

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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JW 9 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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