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'Lives are at stake': All Blacks legend's fiery call for red cards to be axed from rugby

Ofa Tuungafasi (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

All Blacks great Sir John Kirwan has slammed World Rugby in its handling of red cards, even going as far as saying the infraction should be abolished from the sport.

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The topic of red cards has been thrust back into the national consciousness thanks to two sending offs during the Wallabies’ 24-22 win over the All Blacks over the weekend – with All Blacks prop Ofa Tuungafasi and Aussie rookie Lachlan Swinton both getting shown red cards for high tackles.

Speaking on Sky Sport’s The Breakdown, a fired up Kirwan argued that red cards ruin the spectacle of the sport and wants it gone from the game.

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“Our game does not need red cards,” Kirwan said. “I don’t think there’s anyone in our game that goes out intentionally to hurt someone. So if it’s a red card, they go off and someone replaces them for 15 minutes. People have paid good money to watch a game of rugby with 15-a-side. That’s my biggest issue.

“They say the worse thing for rugby is slow motion … what people don’t realise is, once Ofa is committed to that – and actually from a tackle technique looked pretty good – it happened so fast.”

Kirwan said World Rugby are reportedly looking at tweaking the red card rule once again and criticised the governing body for its decision making over the years around the issue.

“World Rugby are always retrospectively [looking at things],” Kirwan said. “Are we always going to look at this stuff post?

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“This is what really annoys me about World Rugby. Make some decisions for the entertainment of the game, for the fan, put people on report or replace them.

“Let’s leave the refs alone. If I think a ref hasn’t done well I’ll say so because they’re like players – they’re professionals and they should be open for scrutiny. But it’s not his fault. He is following a protocol. I believe that the protocols are wrong and we need to change them.

“We need a decision from World Rugby, but this century. Not until something else happens. Lives are at stake, people’s salaries [are at stake]. There’s a lot going on now in the professional sport. I think rugby league does a better job at making quick decisions.”

Tuungafasi was handed a three-week ban by the SANZAAR judicial committee on Wednesday, a day after Swinton was suspended for four weeks for his sending off.

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Tom 5 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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