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All Blacks lock Scott Barrett cleared to play
By Ian Cameron
All Blacks second row Scott Barrett has been cleared to play with immediate effect after his double yellow card at the weekend was deemed sufficient.
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Barrett faced a panel following a red card he received in his sideâs Rugby World Cup 2023 warm-up game against South Africa on Friday night in Twickenham. The red card was a result of two prior yellow cards.
Barrett ultimately paid the price for the All Blacksâ lack-lustre discipline which saw them give away a staggering number of penalties, and eventually, referee Matthew Carley had enough.
The independent judicial committee decided âthat his ordering off in the RWC 2023 Warm Up match against South Africa on 25 August 2023 was sufficientâ and that no further sanction was necessary.
The Committee, led by Sir James Dingemans (England), with Olly Kohn (Wales) and Valeriu Toma (Romania), determined that the Judicial Committee must impose a penalty for persistent offences as stipulated in Appendix 4 of Regulation 17.
The focus was on persistent wrongdoing rather than individual substantive violations linked to each yellow card, per Regulation 17, Appendix 4, B.1. As per Appendix 4, B 2(c), the Committee could decide that the red card sufficed if the temporary suspensions were due to technical infractions, including those that followed a team warning, which didnât entail breaches of laws 9.11 to 9.28.
The All Blacks will be breathing a sigh of relief, even if the panel ruling was effectively a foregone conclusion given the context.
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âThe facts are he got a yellow card, the first yellow card was not for foul play. The second yellow card was a yellow card, so it wasnât a red card,â said All Blacks head coach Ian Foster on Saturday.âThe judiciary, fortunately, donât judge people on the reaction of people on the opposition, they judge it on the facts.â
great hope he thanked the judicy and prommised to keep out of trouble for a while
How Not Mass a game
As a South African I agree with Jeff Wilson, there are numerous similar incidents during a game and it should be all blown consistently.
Thatâs why the Bakkies incident and citing during the 2009 Lions series mustâve had an agenda behind it.
Also the AB's need to take note the they have lost the plot 3 times agains bigger teams wich include the B&I lions, made the same mistake by replacing the 6 remember the other time it was Jerome Kaino and now Jacobson. How on earth did whoever made that choice think how the 7 of the AB's would measure up against 8 of SA? AND THAT WHILE THEY STRUGGLED ALREADY 8 VS 8
If you look at the game the AB's lost upfront 7 vs 8 and not 14 vs 15, this is really not a train smash it was a big score though, The Kurtly Arendse try did change momentum quite to the springbok side and that was an intercept try you can imagine if the ball did go through the hands for the AB's what the game would've been like, I think much closer
We scored when it was 15 v 15 and we scored again when it was 14 v 14
Phew! Fossie desperately needs Barrett - and to start at 6. The Boks showed what happens at scrum time when your back row alone is giving away 35 kgs (can't just blame the props) and a lot of height - can't expect Jacobson (1.91) to compete in the line-out against Du Toit (2.0). No genuine 3rd option puts huge pressure on the thrower. The Boks showed we've got to power up in the loosies to give our tight 5 a chance of holding their own. Cane shouldn't even be on the bench. That's one thing Eddie's got right - would take Hooper/Valetini/McWreight any day over the ABs loosies who played at Twickenham,
Barretts the best lock, ni way to shift him, that would be crazy
We do have a six his name is Frizell also we are missing Retallick and now Lomax?! Donât they check sprigs anymore before the game? I think his tournament is over. Joe Moody will be there shortly to beef up the front row! My only concern is Savea, he must be seven with Papali'i on the bench. The ABs have been missing an 8 since Reid retired
All those Aussies you listed, how tall are they? Only Tom Hooper is pushing 2m
I don't think SA played any great rugby. They played winning rugby at any cost with a bulldozing and bruising mentality, no style, and very little class. It's brainless rugby, might as well call it league. Win at any cost? Maybe! They will get found out in WC pretty soon. Big man can't run, can't think, that's why even Japan kicked their rear a few World Cups ago, hardly worth worrying that they beat the AB's. Only 3 good teams in the WC - France, Ireland and the AB's. France will play AB's in the final, and win. đ
Hahaha. 5 tries to 1. Youâre having a laugh pal.
One of your 3 good teams just got annihilated by a record score.
Self delusion at its finest.
Rakesh I'm not sure if you're bitter or blind but this weekend boks played a pretty complete game. Maybe you should stick to cricket cause you sure as shyte don't know what your talking about. All you are doing is regurgitating dated opinions that actually don't hold any weight anymore. Bottom line is we have the most successful win rate out off all teams at the RWC. I remember when you all assumed your precious England had already won the 2019 final completely disregarding SA pedigree and look what happened there.
It was a shit performance by the ABs I've never seen us play that bad. It's like they were intentionally trying to put themselves under pressure and it backfired. SA were awesome though blew us off the park in that first 20. It was the right call his yellow was never upgraded to red and first was a team yellow. For anyone from SA who thinks otherwise I think you should be thanking the heavens PSDTs yellow wasn't upgraded coz it looked very similar to Vunipolas one and he was quite clearly shitting his pants for 8 of his 10 mins he was on the naughty spot
Disagree about PSdT's tackle. Vunipola was upright, PS was pretty clearly crouching and bent over at the hips almost 90deg.
Halleluyah a Kiwi talking some sense.
Donât expect SA fans to look at the facts objectively đ
Did anyone see the head charge to the back of Whitelocks head while he was on the ground and...... nothing... no penalty... nothing
Im sure we can all scroll through the tape in minute detail and find nasty stuff that the other team did. There was one review where the replay was showing Jordie Barrett executing a beautiful head high cleanout but they were reviewing something else and missed it.
common sense from the judiciary... how novel
This is the correct decision and should never have even gone to the judiciary...the facts of the matter are:
1. It was a reckless challenge given the diving action and the prone position of the SA player
2. The clean out technique was consistent with clean out techniques common in the game
3. The ball was near the SA player
4. The point of contact was with the shoulder rather than the head
You are a all black you see black side of things
Thanks. Why donât you apply for a job at world rugby. They need you.
There were no arms in the cleanout. Thats not consistent. The position of the ball is irrelevent.
In the current climate, how can a player go off his feet, make contact with a player on the floor like he did and not get a ban. Can someone explain his intentions to me?
If you see the replay, he did not make contact with the head, that's why. But I agree it was unnecessary.
He did not target Marx. Went for the guy on the left. He never made contact with Marx head either. When I saw it live, I yelled that he was a dumbass, red card and lengthy ban too.
Replays on the breakdown showed clearly what really happened
Seems an easy answer after they dont even site Springboks for striking players on the floor in the back of the head.
By laws, this Barrett decision is eay to make and correct.
Not sure how deliberate strike to a players head goes unsited.
A precedent has been set for dangerous play get a yellow,get a red,get let off
If the judiciary banned for every red card then why bother. Its purpose is to look for conduct beyond the red card. Be like say courts must always find the defendent guilty.
Too true. Farrel a case in point
Thank goodness clearer heads prevailed and the objectiom was upheld.
The only reason he ended up with a red was because he got two yellow cards, the first one of which was a TEAM card. There was no red card infringement. Iâm not sure what you were watching but if the Boks or any other team had received a ban for that, it wouldâve been outrageous.
Should have copped a ban. Dumbass.
As for this:
Foster said he expected hosts France to similarly try to target the All Blacks pack during their World Cup opener at Stade de France on Sept. 8.
âWeâve now got a good litmus test of where weâre at. Everyone is in the same boat after this weekend,â he added.
Yes. Fucked.
Rassie basically just handed France the recipe for success. The question is do they have the same level in them as the boks?
There were numerous occasions of SA doing the same thing as shown on the breakdown by Jeff Wilson. The difference was that the All Blacks don't try and milk a penalty like pussy Marx. That was the saddest part. A supposedly tough guy taking an obvious dive. You should be ashamed.