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All Blacks reign in our pre-November internationals 'World XV'

Eben Etzebeth, Kieran Read and Semi Radradra (Getty Images)

With the autumn internationals just days away, what better time to put together a current ‘World XV’?

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The best of the northern hemisphere have all done battle in the Six Nations and headed on their travels in the summer to take on the pick of the southern hemisphere, before The Rugby Championship crowned New Zealand as champions for the third year in a row.

The Super Rugby season has come and gone, as have the domestic competitions across the participating nations, whilst the northern hemisphere season has started again with gusto, after Leinster led the way at the tail-end of the 2017/18 campaign.

There is a premium on recent form, so if a player has missed a sizeable amount of time this year due to injury, they may have struggled to make the cuts.

So, do you agree with our assembled ‘World XV’? Or have we dropped some clangers?

  1. Ben Smith, New Zealand

The most ordinary looking man in rugby is arguably the most extraordinary player in the world. There are no weaknesses to Smith’s game. The full-back carries incisively, keeps phases alive, positions himself well in the back field, defends resiliently and has the kicking game to relieve pressure or create space for teammates. Even if the All Blacks decide to favour the scintillating talents of Damian McKenzie or the rising star of Jordie Barrett at 15, Smith would simply move over to 14 and continue to excel.

Silver: Willie le Roux, South Africa and Wasps

Bronze: Israel Folau, Australia and Waratahs

  1. Waisake Naholo, New Zealand and Highlanders

It is a measure of the strength of New Zealand rugby that Naholo can make a ‘World XV’ like this, yet his position in the New Zealand XV is no certainty heading into a Rugby World Cup year. Naholo is an exquisite finisher, brings the blend of footwork, speed and power to beat his opposite man in a number of ways, and boasts a much-improved defensive game than the one he displayed a couple of years ago. All of that said, if a new name emerges at full-back or Israel Dagg can find his way back to top form, Naholo could be the player sacrificed in the back three, with Smith moving over to the right wing.

Watch: Waisake Naholo burns three Wallaby bystanders.

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Silver: Nemani Nadolo, Fiji and Montpellier

Bronze: Jonny May, England and Leicester Tigers

  1. Semi Radradra, Fiji and Bordeaux

Radradra has taken the game of XVs by storm and he has been in devastating form for Fiji, Toulon and Bordeaux this year. There are times when he shoots defensively and can’t get there, potentially creating a hole for the opposition to exploit, but the impact he brings offensively by far outweighs those moments. A fit, confident and well-rested Radradra could well be the difference between Fiji making it to the quarter-finals of next year’s Rugby World Cup, or them bowing out at the group stage.

Watch: Radradra talks about his Rugby World Cup dream.

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Silver: Jack Goodhue, New Zealand and Crusaders

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Bronze: Huw Jones, Scotland and Glasgow Warriors

  1. Kurtley Beale, Australia and Waratahs
Kurtley Beale, Wallabies and Waratahs. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)

The Australian has thrived for franchise and country since he returned from his stint with Wasps in the northern hemisphere. He has also filled in at fly-half when required, but it has been at 12 where he has really excelled in the gold and green. Owen Farrell went well with an England team that struggled for much of 2018, but Beale sneaks ahead of him with the positive impact he has had on the Wallabies, particularly with his ability to create space for the players outside of him.

Silver: Owen Farrell, England and Saracens

Bronze: Robbie Henshaw, Ireland and Leinster

  1. Rieko Ioane, New Zealand and Blues

Just the 22 tries for Ioane in his 21 matches so far for the All Blacks. It’s a scary level of production for the 21-year-old, who went from strength to strength this year and is already one of the first names on the All Blacks’ teamsheet. There is still talk that his best long-term position with New Zealand could be 13, but he is certainly dominating on the left wing as things stand. As complete a skill set as you’re likely to find in any wing playing Test rugby at the moment.

Silver: Aphiwe Dyantyi, South Africa and Lions

Bronze: Jacob Stockdale, Ireland and Ulster

  1. Beauden Barrett, New Zealand and Hurricanes
Beauden Barrett of the All Blacks celebrates scoring a try during the Bledisloe Cup. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Barrett has come in for some criticism this year, partly due to his goal-kicking and partly due to the impressive form of Richie Mo’unga, who is waiting in the wings right behind the Hurricanes playmaker. That said, he is still the most effective player at his position in the world and he creates so many scoring opportunities during a game with his feet and hands, that his sometimes-shaky form kicking at goal is rarely decisive in matches.

Silver: Jonathan Sexton, Ireland and Leinster

Bronze: Richie Mo’unga, New Zealand and Crusaders

  1. Aaron Smith, New Zealand and Highlanders

Arguably a less than vintage year for the scrum-half position, with both Smith and Conor Murray, the two leaders at the position, not quite reaching their peaks, as well as dealing with some injury issues. Will Genia’s continued resurgence was enjoyable to watch, but it wasn’t quite enough to dislodge Smith from his spot at the top. The all-round game that Smith brings is still the best that rugby can currently offer up at the position and there is a good reason why he continues to keep the impressive TJ Perenara, for the most part, on the bench.

Silver: Will Genia, Australia and Rebels

Bronze: Conor Murray, Ireland and Munster

  1. Steven Kitshoff, South Africa and Stormers

Of this entire XV, no player may have improved more this year than Kitshoff. He wasn’t in a bad place to start it, but the dominance of his scrummaging and carrying seems to have moved on to an even higher level. With the experience and still potent ability of Tendai Mtawarira also available, the Springboks may have the best one-two punch at the position in world rugby.

Silver: Mako Vunipola, England and Saracens

Bronze: Rob Evans, Wales and Scarlets

  1. Malcolm Marx, South Africa and Lions
Springbok hooker Malcolm Marx. (Photo by Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

Dane Coles may well take revenge for his absence this autumn, but injury problems have plagued him in 2018 and the void has been emphatically filled by Marx. The critique on Marx last year was that his lineout work didn’t match up with the colossal impact he makes in the loose, but it is an area of his game that he has honed this year, to the point you certainly wouldn’t consider it a weakness any longer. If there’s a more destructive ball-carrier in international rugby, we have yet to see them.

Silver: Codie Taylor, New Zealand and Crusaders

Bronze: Guilhem Guirado, France and Toulon

  1. Tadhg Furlong, Ireland and Leinster

There may be tightheads who can match Furlong with their scrummaging, or others who can match his impact in the loose, but there are none that can match him in both. Another fine year turned in in Furlong’s burgeoning career and he is simply playing at a level above all other players at his position. There’s not much more to say than that.

Silver: Owen Franks, New Zealand and Crusaders

Bronze: Dan Cole, England and Leicester Tigers

  1. Eben Etzebeth, South Africa and Stormers
Eben Etzebeth in action for Springboks against Wallabies in 2018 Rugby Championship (Photo by Albert Perez/Getty Images)

Obviously, Brodie Retallick would be a no-brainer selection here normally, but the Kiwi has missed his fair share of rugby this season. Etzebeth has had his injury struggles in Super Rugby, too, but the value he brought to the Springboks when he returned during The Rugby Championship was undeniable. Etzebeth may not be the most skilful lock in the world, but he is certainly one of the most impactful and with South Africa rediscovering a hard edge to their pack, his place in the engine room is crucial to their hopes of success.

Silver: Leone Nakarawa, Fiji and Racing 92

Bronze: Brodie Retallick, New Zealand and Chiefs

  1. Sam Whitelock, New Zealand and Crusaders

With the much-celebrated Retallick missing some of the year with injury, Whitelock’s arguably just as impressive game has been made even more apparent. He has dovetailed well with Scott Barrett at franchise and international levels and his mastery of the lineout is unsurpassed, certainly from an attacking and overall management perspective. He has had to be at his absolute best to see off the competition from the two players below.

Silver: Maro Itoje, England and Saracens

Bronze: James Ryan, Ireland and Leinster

  1. Peter O’Mahony, Ireland and Munster
Ireland and Munster’s Peter O’Mahony (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

If Whitelock is the king of the attacking lineout, then O’Mahony is the regent of the defensive set-piece. His ability to read attacking throws, quickness to react and impressive vertical ability have made him a threat to steal ball on almost every throw. Couple that with his impressive work at the contact area, as a tackler and a carrier around the fringes, and you have the preeminent blindside flanker in the game.

Silver: Liam Squire, New Zealand and Chiefs

Bronze: Pablo Matera, Argentina and Jaguares

  1. Siya Kolisi, South Africa and Stormers

Some players feel burdened by the added responsibility of captaincy, but that clearly hasn’t been the case for Kolisi, who has flourished with the increased expectations. He led his side to a series victory over England, before consistently performing at an elevated level in The Rugby Championship. Not only has he given the Boks a threat to pilfer at the breakdown, his mobility and work with the ball in hand has kept them moving forward against some tough defences.

Watch: Kolisi reacts to the news that he was to be made captain of the Springboks.

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Silver: Ardie Savea, New Zealand and Hurricanes

Bronze: Sam Cane, New Zealand and Chiefs

  1. Kieran Read, New Zealand and Crusaders
All Blacks number 8 Kieran Read. (Photo by Anthony Au-Yeung/Getty Images)

Another player not without his injury problems but Read has come on strong in the last few months and re-emphasised just why he is so important to what the All Blacks do. Like O’Mahony, Read is another brilliantly-gifted lineout option in the back row, and with such focus on having an efficient lineout in the Test game, his value is high. Throw into the mix his carrying work and ability to keep phases alive, as well as his leadership, and the Kiwi runs away with it at this spot, especially with Billy Vunipola having had an injury plagued year.

Silver: David Pocock, Australia and Brumbies

Bronze: CJ Stander, Ireland and Munster

Watch: Ali Williams Part I: The AB’s ethos and lessons from the ’07 World Cup

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fl 19 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen."


That's not quite my idea.

For a 20 team champions cup I'd have 4 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 4 from the previous years challenge cup. For a 16 team champions cup I'd have 3 teams qualify from the previous years champions cup, and 1 from the previous years challenge cup.


"The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime."

If teams get a tough draw in the challenge cup quarters, they should have won more pool games and so got better seeding. My system is less about finding the best teams, and more about finding the teams who perform at the highest level in european competition.

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fl 56 minutes ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Would I'd be think"

Would I'd be think.


"Well that's one starting point for an error in your reasoning. Do you think that in regards to who should have a say in how it's setup in the future as well? Ie you would care what they think or what might be more fair for their teams (not saying your model doesn't allow them a chance)?"

Did you even read what you're replying to? I wasn't arguing for excluding south africa, I was pointing out that the idea of quantifying someone's fractional share of european rugby is entirely nonsensical. You're the one who was trying to do that.


"Yes, I was thinking about an automatic qualifier for a tier 2 side"

What proportion of european rugby are they though? Got to make sure those fractions match up! 😂


"Ultimately what I think would be better for t2 leagues would be a third comp underneath the top two tournemnts where they play a fair chunk of games, like double those two. So half a dozen euro teams along with the 2 SA and bottom bunch of premiership and top14, some Championship and div 2 sides thrown in."

I don't know if Championship sides want to be commuting to Georgia every other week.


"my thought was just to create a middle ground now which can sustain it until that time has come, were I thought yours is more likely to result in the constant change/manipulation it has been victim to"

a middle ground between the current system and a much worse system?

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fl 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Huh? You mean last in their (4 team) pools/regions? My idea was 6/5/4, 6 the max, for guarenteed spots, with a 20 team comp max, so upto 5 WCs (which you'd make/or would be theoretically impossible to go to one league (they'd likely be solely for its participants, say 'Wales', rather than URC specifically. Preferrably). I gave 3 WC ideas for a 18 team comp, so the max URC could have (with a member union or club/team, winning all of the 6N, and Champions and Challenge Cup) would be 9."


That's a lot of words to say that I was right. If (e.g.) Glasgow won the URC and Edinburgh finished 16th, but Scotland won the six nations, Edinburgh would qualify for the Champions Cup under your system.


"And the reason say another URC (for example) member would get the spot over the other team that won the Challenge Cup, would be because they were arguable better if they finished higher in the League."

They would be arguably worse if they didn't win the Challenge Cup.


"It won't diminish desire to win the Challenge Cup, because that team may still be competing for that seed, and if theyre automatic qual anyway, it still might make them treat it more seriously"

This doesn't make sense. Giving more incentives to do well in the Challenge Cup will make people take it more seriously. My system does that and yours doesn't. Under my system, teams will "compete for the seed" by winning the Challenge Cup, under yours they won't. If a team is automatically qualified anyway why on earth would that make them treat it more seriously?


"I'm promoting the idea of a scheme that never needs to be changed again"

So am I. I'm suggesting that places could be allocated according to a UEFA style points sytem, or according to a system where each league gets 1/4 of the spots, and the remaining 1/4 go to the best performing teams from the previous season in european competition.


"Yours will promote outcry as soon as England (or any other participant) fluctates. Were as it's hard to argue about a the basis of an equal share."

Currently there is an equal share, and you are arguing against it. My system would give each side the opportunity to achieve an equal share, but with more places given to sides and leagues that perform well. This wouldn't promote outcry, it would promote teams to take european competition more seriously. Teams that lose out because they did poorly the previous year wouldn't have any grounds to complain, they would be incentivised to try harder this time around.


"This new system should not be based on the assumption of last years results/performances continuing."

That's not the assumption I'm making. I don't think the teams that perform better should be given places in the competition because they will be the best performing teams next year, but because sport should be based on merit, and teams should be rewarded for performing well.


"I'm specifically promoting my idea because I think it will do exactly what you want, increase european rugyb's importance."

how?


"I won't say I've done anything compressive"

Compressive.

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JW 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Generally disagree with what? The possibility that they would get whitewashed, or the idea they shouldn't gain access until they're good enough?


I think the first is a fairly irrelevant view, decide on the second and then worry about the first. Personally I'd have had them in a third lvl comp with all the bottom dwellers of the leagues. I liked the idea of those league clubs resting their best players, and so being able to lift their standards in the league, though, so not against the idea that T2 sides go straight into Challenge Cup, but that will be a higher level with smaller comps and I think a bit too much for them (not having followed any of their games/performances mind you).

Because I don't think that having the possibility of a team finishing outside the quarter finals to qualify automatically will be a good idea. I'd rather have a team finishing 5th in their domestic league.

fl's idea, if I can speak for him to speed things up, was for it to be semifinalists first, Champions Cup (any that somehow didn't make a league semi), then Challenge's semi finalists (which would most certainly have been outside their league semi's you'd think), then perhaps the quarter finalists of each in the same manner. I don't think he was suggesting whoever next performed best in Europe but didn't make those knockouts (like those round of 16 losers), I doubt that would ever happen.


The problem I mainly saw with his idea (much the same as you see, that league finish is a better indicator) is that you could have one of the best candidates lose in the quarters to the eventual champions, and so miss out for someone who got an easier ride, and also finished lower in the league, perhaps in their own league, and who you beat everytime.

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JW 1 hour ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Well I was mainly referring to my thinking about the split, which was essentially each /3 rounded up, but reliant on WCs to add buffer.


You may have been going for just a 16 team league ranking cup?


But yes, those were just ideas for how to select WCs, all very arbitrary but I think more interesting in ways than just going down a list (say like fl's) of who is next in line. Indeed in my reply to you I hinted at say the 'URC' WC spot actually being given to the Ireland pool and taken away from the Welsh pool.


It's easy to think that is excluding, and making it even harder on, a poor performing country, but this is all in context of a 18 or 20 team comp where URC (at least to those teams in the URC) got 6 places, which Wales has one side lingering around, and you'd expect should make. Imagine the spice in that 6N game with Italy, or any other of the URC members though! Everyone talks about SA joining the 6N, so not sure it will be a problem, but it would be a fairly minor one imo.


But that's a structure of the leagues were instead of thinking how to get in at the top, I started from the bottom and thought that it best those teams doing qualify for anything. Then I thought the two comps should be identical in structure. So that's were an even split comes in with creating numbers, and the 'UEFA' model you suggest using in some manner, I thought could be used for the WC's (5 in my 20 team comp) instead of those ideas of mine you pointed out.


I see Jones has waded in like his normal self when it comes to SH teams. One thing I really like about his idea is the name change to the two competitions, to Cup and Shield. Oh, and home and away matches.

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