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American football commentary has Baxter still believing in Exeter

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Rob Baxter is hoping that the form of his Exeter for the remainder of the 2022/23 campaign can resemble the NFL Dallas Cowboys. The Chiefs were hammered last weekend at Saracens in the Gallagher Premiership, their sixth loss in eleven matches this season. Having reached the Premiership final on six successive occasions between 2016 and 2021, lifting the trophy twice in the process, the famed consistency in the Exeter results has waned in recent times.

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Last season, they finished off the playoff pace in seventh place after they lost eleven of their 24 matches and this term’s results so far have also been only good enough for just seventh place again in what is now only an eleven-team Premiership following the collapse of Wasps and Worcester.

Only in the opening two weekends of the season have Exeter chalked up back-to-back wins in the league, their three other victories in the competition getting immediately followed by losses. That sequence happened again over the recent holiday period, the Chiefs’ win over Bath getting followed by their 3-35 thumping at Saracens.

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Ahead of this Saturday’s home game versus Northampton, Baxter is hoping that a glance last Sunday at some NFL action on TV can help focus minds and keep Exeter believing that success is still possible this season because while Dallas have lost four games in their NFL campaign, those losses were followed by streaks of four, two, four and two wins.

“If you can get a streak of wins together the season can transform,” he suggested. “I was watching some American football commentary over the weekend.

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“I can’t remember who it was, Dallas Cowboys, somebody like that, and they were talking about what a streaky team they were and how they are right in the playoffs because they have put a few wins together and their streaks have been good. That is what we have got to do. Our priority now is to have a good streak. If we can get a good streak together we will look good. If we have a poor streak it is going you look pretty dismal. That’s where we are at this stage of the season.”

The Exeter pumping at Saracens didn’t make for nice viewing for Baxter, but he insisted the setback can now be a positive for his team in the long run. “We have looked at it in great detail and have talked a lot about it – actually we had a very good conversation with the players when we first got back in about it.

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“The truth is you have got to learn from that scenario and the biggest lesson to learn is that you have to play as a team. There is a plan and what you input into the team has to make the team stronger. The team should always be stronger than the parts if you are a good side. Saracens showed that.

“Obviously, there were 20 internationals on the pitch. There were a lot of good players on the pitch but they played exceptionally well as a team. They knew their roles, they knew what to do and they did them very well. We, on the other hand, didn’t look like that. We made numerous individual errors around the field that just add up and add up and we weren’t quite sharp enough on the bits we had to.

“Our set-piece wasn’t good enough, that was very individual and that hurt us. And that is what we talked about – the lesson to learn there is how you forge yourself together as a team and whatever 15 ends up on the pitch, you have got to promote each other, you have got to benefit each other, you have got to make each other stronger.

“That has always been a huge strength of ours. That has always been one of our foundation elements and that was the lesson we learned. It was important for some of the players to learn it and talk about it because that is how you move forward. They are the games where you can choose to learn most from them.

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“We don’t need to sit here beating ourselves up about the result. What we do need is the positives we can take from it. When I say positives, I don’t mean how we played. You can’t look at it and find those positives in how we played. Some individual performances were good, particularly from a couple of younger guys. But the positive we take from it is what can we learn and what can we take from it to make us a better team.”

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JW 3 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Like I've said before about your idea (actually it might have been something to do with mine, I can't remember), I like that teams will a small sustainable league focus can gain the reward of more consistent CC involvement. I'd really like the most consistent option available.


Thing is, I think rugby can do better than footballs version. I think for instance I wanted everyone in it to think they can win it, where you're talking about trying to make so the worst teams in it are not giving up when they are so far off the pace that we get really bad scorelines (when that and giving up to concentrate on the league is happening together). I know it's not realistic to think those same exact teams are going to be competitive with a different model but I am inclined to think more competitive teams make it in with another modem. It's a catch 22 of course, you want teams to fight to be there next year, but they don't want to be there next year when theres less interest in it because the results are less interesting than league ones. If you ensure the best 20 possible make it somehow (say currently) each year they quickly change focus when things aren't going well enough and again interest dies. Will you're approach gradually work overtime? With the approach of the French league were a top 6 mega rich Premier League type club system might develop, maybe it will? But what of a model like Englands were its fairly competitive top 8 but orders or performances can jump around quite easily one year to the next? If the England sides are strong comparatively to the rest do they still remain in EPCR despite not consistently dominating in their own league?


So I really like that you could have a way to remedy that, but personally I would want my model to not need that crutch. Some of this is the same problem that football has. I really like the landscape in both the URC and Prem, but Ireland with Leinster specifically, and France, are a problem IMO. In football this has turned CL pool stages in to simply cash cow fixtures for the also ran countries teams who just want to have a Real Madrid or ManC to lose to in their pool for that bumper revenue hit. It's always been a comp that had suffered for real interest until the knockouts as well (they might have changed it in recent years?).


You've got some great principles but I'm not sure it's going to deliver on that hard hitting impact right from the start without the best teams playing in it. I think you might need to think about the most minimal requirement/way/performance, a team needs to execute to stay in the Champions Cup as I was having some thougt about that earlier and had some theory I can't remember. First they could get entry by being a losing quarter finalist in the challenge, then putting all their eggs in the Champions pool play bucket in order to never finish last in their pool, all the while showing the same indifference to their league some show to EPCR rugby now, just to remain in champions. You extrapolate that out and is there ever likely to be more change to the champions cup that the bottom four sides rotate out each year for the 4 challenge teams? Are the leagues ever likely to have the sort of 'flux' required to see some variation? Even a good one like Englands.


I'd love to have a table at hand were you can see all the outcomes, and know how likely any of your top 12 teams are going break into Champions rubyg on th back it it are?

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fl 6 hours ago
‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

"Right, so even if they were the 4 worst teams in Champions Cup, you'd still have them back by default?"

I think (i) this would literally never happen, (ii) it technically couldn't quite happen, given at least 1 team would qualify via the challenge cup, so if the actual worst team in the CC qualified it would have to be because they did really well after being knocked down to the challenge cup.

But the 13th-15th teams could qualify and to be fair I didn't think about this as a possibility. I don't think a team should be able to qualify via the Champions Cup if they finish last in their group.


Overall though I like my idea best because my thinking is, each league should get a few qualification spots, and then the rest of the spots should go to the next best teams who have proven an ability to be competitive in the champions cup. The elite French clubs generally make up the bulk of the semi-final spots, but that doesn't (necessarily) mean that the 5th-8th best French clubs would be competitive in a slimmed down champions cup. The CC is always going to be really great competition from the semis onwards, but the issue is that there are some pretty poor showings in the earlier rounds. Reducing the number of teams would help a little bit, but we could improve things further by (i) ensuring that the on-paper "worst" teams in the competition have a track record of performing well in the CC, and (ii) by incentivising teams to prioritise the competition. Teams that have a chance to win the whole thing will always be incentivised to do that, but my system would incentivise teams with no chance of making the final to at least try to win a few group stage matches.


"I'm afraid to say"

Its christmas time; there's no need to be afraid!

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