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Andy Farrell: 'If I can try and sum it up of where we are at...'

By Liam Heagney at Aviva Stadium, Dublin
Ireland players (from left) Jack Crowley, Tadhg Beirne and Josh van der Flier after the Autumn Nations Series win over Argentina (Photo by Seb Daly/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Andy Farrell has given his halfway verdict on the efforts of his Ireland team in the 2024 Autumn Nations Series. The Irish have played two of their four November matches, following their opening 13-23 defeat to New Zealand with a 22-19 win over Argentina on Friday night.

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Having surrendered a 13-9, 44th-minute advantage against the All Blacks to lose by 10 points, Farrell’s charges refused to buckle seven days later versus Los Pumas, clinging onto a three-point success despite last scoring in the 33rd-minute of the match.

Both performances left much to be desired. Ireland may have come into the series ranked as World Rugby’s No1 side, but they had not played since last July’s series-ending win away to South Africa in Durban, a lay-off in sharp contrast to the busy New Zealand and Argentina schedules.

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“If I can try and sum it up of where we are at, when you are looking at two top sides that we have played in the first two weeks, it looks like we’re still trying to find our feet in the intensity of the full 80 minutes for that top one per cent gains,” explained Farrell, whose team fell to third in the rankings after their opening night loss.

“Obviously, New Zealand and Argentina have been playing those type of games for the last five or six months. It looks like our lads, some of them are a little bit shy of that intensity. Hopefully we are building through this month and we’ll see the best of us in the next two games.

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“We looked lethargic. You could say that’s because of penalties given or losing a collision or whatever that maybe but just in general, the quality of opposition has been strong, very strong in these first two games and I think we will get better as we go through.”

Ireland, who next host Fiji on November 23, led Argentina 12-0 after just six minutes, and Crowley’s conversion of Joe McCarthy’s 32nd-minute try made it 22-9 heading towards the interval. However, they failed to score again in a contest where the six-three penalties conceded tally at the break finished a lopsided 13-6 against them. It hurt.

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“It is something that we have been outstanding on over the last 10 years actually but certainly it’s not done out of a player going out there to be indisciplined. It’s coming from the right place.

“That might sound stupid but at the same time what you are trying to do is the right thing by the team and trying to pull a rabbit too much out of the hat at times. You just need to be a little more patient individually and trust the team of what we are about,” he said in wake of a display that included yellow cards for Finlay Bealham and McCarthy.

“It was three or four games in one really, wasn’t it? The over-riding feeling is we are delighted to get the win. There was a few things we needed to learn from last week, some things that we didn’t address on the field but we said last week that we had a chance of winning ugly – we did that this week so that’s a plus.

“But just going through the game, I thought we showed some real good intent, certainly in the first half. We was direct, we was powering into them, it was hard work to handle playing off quick ball etc and then on the back of that if we get the try from Tadhg Beirne, that probably justifies the score a little bit because of the dominance that we had.

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“But we know the type of side that they are, they have improved out of sight, Argentina, and the pressure that they put on us and we put on ourselves in the second half obviously brought them back into the game. But to cut a long story short, we held our nerve towards the end and just about got there.”

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‘The problem with this year’s Champions Cup? Too many English clubs’

Like I've said before about your idea (actually it might have been something to do with mine, I can't remember), I like that teams will a small sustainable league focus can gain the reward of more consistent CC involvement. I'd really like the most consistent option available.


Thing is, I think rugby can do better than footballs version. I think for instance I wanted everyone in it to think they can win it, where you're talking about trying to make so the worst teams in it are not giving up when they are so far off the pace that we get really bad scorelines (when that and giving up to concentrate on the league is happening together). I know it's not realistic to think those same exact teams are going to be competitive with a different model but I am inclined to think more competitive teams make it in with another modem. It's a catch 22 of course, you want teams to fight to be there next year, but they don't want to be there next year when theres less interest in it because the results are less interesting than league ones. If you ensure the best 20 possible make it somehow (say currently) each year they quickly change focus when things aren't going well enough and again interest dies. Will you're approach gradually work overtime? With the approach of the French league were a top 6 mega rich Premier League type club system might develop, maybe it will? But what of a model like Englands were its fairly competitive top 8 but orders or performances can jump around quite easily one year to the next? If the England sides are strong comparatively to the rest do they still remain in EPCR despite not consistently dominating in their own league?


So I really like that you could have a way to remedy that, but personally I would want my model to not need that crutch. Some of this is the same problem that football has. I really like the landscape in both the URC and Prem, but Ireland with Leinster specifically, and France, are a problem IMO. In football this has turned CL pool stages in to simply cash cow fixtures for the also ran countries teams who just want to have a Real Madrid or ManC to lose to in their pool for that bumper revenue hit. It's always been a comp that had suffered for real interest until the knockouts as well (they might have changed it in recent years?).


You've got some great principles but I'm not sure it's going to deliver on that hard hitting impact right from the start without the best teams playing in it. I think you might need to think about the most minimal requirement/way/performance, a team needs to execute to stay in the Champions Cup as I was having some thougt about that earlier and had some theory I can't remember. First they could get entry by being a losing quarter finalist in the challenge, then putting all their eggs in the Champions pool play bucket in order to never finish last in their pool, all the while showing the same indifference to their league some show to EPCR rugby now, just to remain in champions. You extrapolate that out and is there ever likely to be more change to the champions cup that the bottom four sides rotate out each year for the 4 challenge teams? Are the leagues ever likely to have the sort of 'flux' required to see some variation? Even a good one like Englands.


I'd love to have a table at hand were you can see all the outcomes, and know how likely any of your top 12 teams are going break into Champions rubyg on th back it it are?

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