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Andy Marinos detests disloyal tag as Jones eyes NRL stars

Eddie Jones at the Super Rugby Pacific launch event. Photo by Jenny Evans/Getty Images

Reports that suggest Eddie Jones and Rugby Australia’s emphasis on recruiting NRL talent to bolster the Wallabies team is being received poorly by the current Wallaby players have been rejected by Rugby Australia’s CEO Andy Marinos.

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The criticism comes by way of athlete manager David Rawlings, who represents Wallabies and Brumbies star Tom Wright as well as a host of NRL stars. Rawlins lashed out at Rugby Australia on the weekend, telling News Corp “The rugby players, in general, are sick of hearing about it. A lot of the boys are thinking, ‘if they want NRL players, we’ll have to look elsewhere’. It’s become a debacle.

“What about looking after your own? Loyalty works both ways. Look at the sacrifices the players have made in rugby.”

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Jones has openly expressed interest in a number of NRL players and rumours have circulated with names who may have been approached by Rugby Australia about a high-paying code switch.

Marinos however questioned the legitimacy of the claim and deflected to reaffirm RA’s stance on recruitment as purely looking to ensure the competitive landscape of the Australian game going forward.

“It hasn’t come directly to me but we are aware of the narrative in the media,” he said. “What we are really trying to aim for is to retain all of our best talent, and making sure we have good, competitive teams for the World Cups coming up, and Lions tours and everything in between.”

Marinos pointed to the recent re-signings of nine Wallabies as proof RA’s loyalty to the Wallaby players was healthy.

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“I think we are demonstrating that with the number of signings we are rolling out, and their long-term nature. We are working pretty hard [on contracting] but it has been hard as we come out of a depressed financial environment and we are really starting to rebuild now, and setting our sights for the future.

“It is about retaining our players and looking to see how we can improve the playing environment and our rosters.”

That depressed financial environment was called out by Souths chief executive Blake Solly last week after Eddie Jones expressed interest in Rabbitohs captain Cameron Murray, comparing Murray’s potential impact in rugby union to that of Sonny Bill Williams.

“I’m not surprised rugby have shown an interest in him,” Solly told The Sydney Morning Herald. “But the fact is he’s contracted until the end of 2025, and we’d love him to stay longer. In truth, rugby really needs to get its own house in order.

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“It continues to lose talented kids to rugby league every year, it has financial challenges, and it will need more than some NRL signings to solve their many problems.”

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Those comments were met with a comedic rebuttal by RA chairman Hamish McLennan, who acknowledged the financial hole of $25 million that Rugby Australia currently face before likening Solly’s comments to “being hit with a wet lettuce”.

“That’s not much of a sledge. It’s like being hit with a wet lettuce. Why is he being so sensitive? And we make no apologies for showing an interest in Cam Murray. He grew up playing rugby union. It’s a free market.”

The back and forth continues to keep rugby union in the spotlight, an outcome often linked to Eddie Jones. Marinos went on to defend the Wallabies coach’s public hunt for new talent.

“Each coach has their different methods and he has obviously drawn back to what worked in the past, and he has been vocal about it.

“There are good rugby union players that have chosen a different path and he is perfectly entitled to highlight that, and highlight that they’re good players. It is not devaluing the importance of the players who are currently in the system, because they’re the ones who are wearing the jersey and delivering.”

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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