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Mixed Sunday for English sides in Champions Cup

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Jack Willis at Sandy Park - PA

Antoine Dupont starred as Toulouse produced a 10-try blitz to rout Investec Champions Cup opponents Exeter 64-21.

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The record six-time tournament winners were in irresistible form as Matthis Lebel and Pierre-Louis Barassi crossed twice and Dupont, Julien Marchand, Thibaud Flament and Theo Ntamack, Blair Kinghorn and Paul Graou once each with Thomas Ramos kicking seven conversions.

Tommy Wyatt claimed a double for Exeter and Josh Hodge also went over and Henry Slade added the conversions, but they were well beaten in the Pool 1 encounter.

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Bautista Bernasconi’s late try condemned Bath to an agonising 22-21 defeat at Benetton.

The Gallagher Premiership leaders, who had Louis Schreuder and Max Ojomoh yellow-carded, led 21-17 at Stadio Monigo courtesy of tries from Niall Annett, Josh Bayliss and Thomas du Toit, all of them converted by Orlando Bailey, with a minute remaining.

Investec Champions Cup

Pool 1
P
W
L
D
PF
PA
PD
BP T
BP-7
BP
Total
1
Toulouse
2
2
0
0
10
2
Bordeaux
2
2
0
0
10
3
Leicester
2
1
1
0
6
4
Sharks
2
1
1
0
5
5
Exeter Chiefs
2
0
2
0
0
6
Ulster
2
0
2
0
0
Pool 2
P
W
L
D
PF
PA
PD
BP T
BP-7
BP
Total
1
La Rochelle
2
2
0
0
9
2
Leinster
2
2
0
0
9
3
Clermont
2
1
1
0
5
4
Benetton
2
1
1
0
5
5
Bath
2
0
2
0
2
6
Bristol
2
0
2
0
0
Pool 3
P
W
L
D
PF
PA
PD
BP T
BP-7
BP
Total
1
Northampton
2
2
0
0
10
2
Saracens
2
2
0
0
9
3
Munster
2
1
1
0
6
4
Castres
2
1
1
0
4
5
Bulls
2
0
2
0
0
6
Stade Francais
2
0
2
0
0
Pool 4
P
W
L
D
PF
PA
PD
BP T
BP-7
BP
Total
1
Toulon
2
2
0
0
8
2
Glasgow
2
1
1
0
7
3
Harlequins
2
1
1
0
5
4
Sale
2
1
1
0
5
5
Racing 92
2
1
1
0
4
6
Stormers
2
0
2
0
0

However, hooker Bernasconi crossed at the death to add to Rhyno Smith’s double either side of Louis Lynagh’s touchdown and Tomas Albornoz’s only successful kick to snatch victory.

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England captain Jamie George was among the scorers as Saracens made Stade Francais pay for indiscipline with a 28-17 Pool 3 win at Stade Jean Bouin.

He, Liam Williams and Theo Dan all crossed with George’s 45th-minute effort and Dan’s seven minutes from time coming with the hosts, who scored through Peniasi Dakuwaqa and Leo Barr, down to 14 men as 13 points from the boot of Fergus Burke saw the visitors home comfortably.

In Pool 4, Glasgow Warriors came up just short as they went down 30-29 at Toulon.

Johnny Matthews’ late try, which was converted by George Horne after Josh McKay and Olujare Oguntibeju had gone over for the visitors, dragged them to within a point of the French side, who prevailed courtesy of Leicester Fainga’anuku’s double and Brian Alainu’uese’s try despite yellow cards for Baptiste Serin, Lewis Ludlam and Marius Doman.

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JW 4 hours ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

Haha yeah I know, sorry I just cbf doing anything other than sprouting the garbage that comes in. You either follow the train of thought or don't most the time, that's why I like you, happy to not take it serious like, and reply regardless.

Haha more imaginary rational. You mean in 2018 and 19 he used 36 new players?

more = you're following in Saders footsteps (here I go again assuming you know what I'll mean haha)

imaginary = fictitious world cups (no WC in 2018)

by "months before" you mean 2018/19? = because you wrote 2018 i'm assuming that's because your brain was thinking about that year when he used most of those 36 players

36 new players = because it's absolutely impossible to use 36 new players in the handful of games you get, or "months", before a WC

Doesn't really sound like good coaching and reinforces other theories. Wouldn't spread that.

Doesn't really sound like good coaching = that is waay to many players no matter what way you spin it, or what period. Where did you even get the data for that from?

reinforces other theories = no need to go into them here but it definitely suggests a case of being lucky to win despite the fact (if true) imo

Wouldn't spread that = cheekyness about above point


So yeah, you can see why I don't try to elaberate my posts so everyone can understand and sadly theyre too succinct for some with a slightly different lingo or thought.

and two years of >85% win ratio on the trot - I’d love to see how he’d have down with better coaching.

the none TLDR version reply..

two years = but weren't you following the similar line of this article that Razor needs to open it up? Why would you think that when you're suggesting he's got another 3 or 4 years before he reaches that point in tenure when he should also be trying to hit the 85 mark?

>85% win ratio on the trot = WC years are short and provide easy opposition, you don't normally include them. 22 would be more relevant, and this year you had both other top teams at home, so you'd think that 85 number is overs, or 'above' average based on circumstances (85 is a really fabulous number however so going back to 80 would also still be great)

love to see how he’d have done with better coaching. = well it's exactly the opposite of above isn't it, it's operating at well over 70 for 4 (excl covid) of those 7 years instead of his 60%, before hitting the 80s mark.


You might also ask well how could that be possible when he's done so bloody well just to do what he's done? Well I'm not going to take him (or SA) down a beg or two, instead I'll give you the hint (because I'm over thinking how to type long versions of replys), the answer is in this article!


Can you think of any specific players that became instrumental to the team from those 36 new players? One's plucked out of nowhere so to speak? I know for the first two years after covid he switched up you're team and tactics after each game against NZ (for the second), I think winning both 1st games and losing both rematch's? You don't think he should ever have done that differently, not been so happy to give up a victory against the ABs?

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