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Argentina great Agustin Creevy offers services to RWC-chasing nation

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Former Argentina captain Agustin Creevy has been in the Spanish national team’s camp this week to offer his expertise.

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In the midst of Los Leones’ preseason camp ahead of a tour of the Pacific, where they will face Samoa and Tonga, they have been joined by the 39-year-old this week, who has helped with their scrum, lineout and breakdown work.

Creevy will only be with the team for three days of their camp, which began last week and will run until June 23.

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The 108-cap Puma, Argentina’s most capped player, has taken on the role to help his friend and compatriot Pablo Bouza, head coach of Spain.

“I’m happy to be here these three days,” Creevy said to the Spain website (translated by Google).

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Samoa
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“I am a good friend of Pablo Bouza and he called me to lend a hand in the scrum and here I am to live the experience. I practically just arrived, so we made the presentation and the truth is that everyone was very friendly and welcomed me with open arms.

“I think that Spain is a team with a lot of determination, that is moving forward and wants to progress with the aim of qualifying for the World Cup. Very similar to Los Pumas a few years ago. I came here to be with them, to give them all my knowledge and to help in the scrum, breakdown and the hookers with the line throws.

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“To help where I have to and be part of the Spanish staff these three days.”

Bouza added: “He can help us a lot in the scrum, lineout and breakdown. The best thing about Agustín is that despite having more than 100 games with Los Pumas, he is a very humble person, with whom you can talk and who transmits very well and is always in a good mood.

“I have worked with him for five years. We had been talking since January and the opportunity arose when he finished playing with Sale Sharks and was able to come here.”

Creevy brought his one-year stay at Sale Sharks to a close at the end of the Gallagher Premiership season, and is yet to announce the next step in his career.

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20 - 29
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AllyOz 19 hours ago
Does the next Wallabies coach have to be an Australian?

I will preface this comment by saying that I hope Joe Schmidt continues for as long as he can as I think he has done a tremendous job to date. He has, in some ways, made the job a little harder for himself by initially relying on domestic based players and never really going over the top with OS based players even when he relaxed his policy a little more. I really enjoy how the team are playing at the moment.


I think Les Kiss, because (1) he has a bit more international experience, (2) has previously coached with Schmidt and in the same setup as Schmidt, might provide the smoothest transition, though I am not sure that this necessarily needs to be the case.


I would say one thing though about OS versus local coaches. I have a preference for local coaches but not for the reason that people might suppose (certainly not for the reason OJohn will have opined - I haven't read all the way down but I think I can guess it).


Australia has produced coaches of international standing who have won World Cups and major trophies. Bob Dwyer, Rod Macqueen, Alan Jones, Michael Cheika and Eddie Jones. I would add John Connolly - though he never got the international success he was highly successful with Queensland against quality NZ opposition and I think you could argue, never really got the run at international level that others did (OJohn might agree with that bit). Some of those are controversial but they all achieved high level results. You can add to that a number of assistants who worked OS at a high level.


But what the lack of a clear Australian coach suggests to me is that we are no longer producing coaches of international quality through our systems. We have had some overseas based coaches in our system like Thorn and Wessels and Cron (though I would suggest Thorn was a unique case who played for Australia in one code and NZ in the other and saw himself as a both a NZer and a Queenslander having arrived here at around age 12). Cron was developed in the Australian system anyway, so I don't have a problem with where he was born.


But my point is that we used to have systems in Australia that produced world class coaches. The systems developed by Dick Marks, which adopted and adapted some of the best coaching training approaches at the time from around the world (Wales particularly) but focussed on training Australian coaches with the best available methods, in my mind (as someone who grew up and began coaching late in that era) was a key part of what produced the highly skilled players that we produced at the time and also that produced those world class coaches. I think it was slipping already by the time I did my Level II certificate in 2002 and I think Eddie Jones influence and the priorities of the executive, particularly John O'Neill, might have been the beginning of the end. But if we have good coaching development programmes at school and junior level that will feed through to representative level then we will have


I think this is the missing ingredient that both ourselves and, ironically, Wales (who gave us the bones of our coaching system that became world leading), is a poor coaching development system. Fix that and you start getting players developing basic skills better and earlier in their careers and this feeds through all the way through the system and it also means that, when coaching positions at all levels come up, there are people of quality to fill them, who feed through the system all the way to the top. We could be exporting more coaches to Japan and England and France and the UK and the USA, as we have done a bit in the past.


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I don't think it matters that we have an OS coach as our head coach at the moment but I think it does tell us something about overall rugby ecosystem that, when a coaching appointment comes up, we don't have 3 or 4 high quality options ready to take over. The failure of our coaching development pathway is a key missing ingredient for me and one of the reasons our systems are failing.

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