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Baby Bok star linked to Wales warned selection no 'fait accompli'

Rio Dyer of Wales is tackled by Canan Moodie of South Africa during the Summer International match between Wales and South Africa at Principality Stadium on August 19, 2023 in Cardiff, Wales. (Photo by Alex Davidson/Getty Images)

Jake White believes South Africa’s involvement in the BKT URC will help lure World Cup-winning Springboks back home.

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The Vodacom Bulls boss feels the fact the country’s four franchises are now competing in Europe will serve as a real selling point for recruiting big name ‘Boks.

White has been in Wales this week, preparing for his team’s BKT URC clash with Cardiff Rugby at the Arms Park on Friday night and he has a little tale to illustrate his point. “I had an interview this week with a player who plays, not in Wales, but in the UK,” he revealed.

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Bulls Director of Rugby Jake White explains his decision to go for a 6-2 bench split against Cardiff

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Bulls Director of Rugby Jake White explains his decision to go for a 6-2 bench split against Cardiff

“He came to see me about returning back to South Africa. One of the selling points is we are now playing in Europe. We are not playing Super Rugby.

“We are closer to home, we can feel what it’s like to be in the northern hemisphere, we understand northern hemisphere rugby. That’s a selling point for these players to want to come back to South Africa. Especially now that it’s post the Rugby World Cup. I understand players, they go out and make money.

“But with the new cycle of South African rugby, trying to pick a new Springboks side, maybe being at home and playing in front of your home crowd, being seen every week and being in the loop is going to be a positive thing and that will help the franchises.

“For those guys in the wilderness, playing at clubs abroad that people don’t really watch, maybe the way forward is to get them to come back to South Africa and play well in front of the supporters.”

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White is particularly keen to see a return for the stars who lifted the Webb Ellis trophy out in France.

“We need to attract those World Cup-winning Springboks back to play in the franchises,” he said. “It’s wonderful they have done so well, but I would love to tap into that experience by bringing back guys like Jesse Kriel, Handre Pollard and Trevor Nyakane, just to mention guys who have played for the Bulls previously. There are other guys we would love to get back as well.

“If we could get that calibre of player back to our franchises, it would be so beneficial for our younger players – to play with some of the best Springbok players.”

One of the young Vodacom Bulls players who is really making his mark and hitting the headlines is dynamic back row forward Cameron Hanekom, amid the news he is eligible for Wales. “I didn’t know until one of the BBC commentators told me at training!” revealed White. “He said ‘Did you know this kid is Welsh qualified?’ and the next day I read in the paper he’s got a grandmother who qualifies him for the Welsh team.

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Cameron Hanekom
Cameron Hanekom of the Bulls during the Currie Cup, Premier Division match between Vodacom Bulls and Fidelity ADT Lions at Loftus Versfeld on April 22, 2023 in Pretoria, South Africa. (Photo by Lee Warren/Gallo Images)

“I think that’s a sign of the times. I don’t think it’s going to be the last time we get a player in South Africa that’s qualified for another country. Obviously, he’s a great talent. He was voted the best player in a U20s tournament a couple of years back. He’s still only 21.

“He’s been a good find for the public, but we knew he was in our system and that it was always inevitable he would come through into our mix.”

As for the No.8’s Welsh link, White added: “There are some really good loose forwards coming through for Wales, if I look at Jac Morgan, Taine Plumtree. So I don’t think it’s a fait accompli that just because you qualify to play for Wales that you will necessarily get picked to play for Wales.

“It’s a great honour to play for your country and I can’t see that just because you qualify you therefore get an easier ride into playing international rugby.”

The Vodacom Bulls arrived in Cardiff lying third in the BKT URC table having recorded bonus point victories over the Scarlets and Zebre Parma, either side of a 26-19 defeat to Ulster in Belfast.

“I am feeling pretty positive. I am happy where we are,” said White. “There is a nice blend between senior pros and some of the youngsters, while we’ve made some quality signings.

“But you can’t take anything for granted in this league. It is so close and so competitive. I see the BKT URC as a real positive. I’d like to win it! We got to the final in the first year and last season we got knocked out by the DHL Stormers who got to the final again.”

He added: “In the first year of the BKT URC, I don’t think our fans understood what European rugby was like, but this is year three now. When we play our home games in the Champions Cup, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get 40-50,000 at those because of the whole groundswell of BKT URC and playing in Europe. It’s really taken off.”

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JL 419 days ago

Well it’s good to see the Ancient Scottish clans of Van der Merwe, Schoeman, Nel and Steyn running out for Scotland! Scotland’s disgraceful abuse of the residency rule means anything goes these days. Including claims of a Welsh grandmammy…

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JW 3 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

Of course not, but were not going to base our reasoning on what is said in one comment in a particular scenario and time, are we?


Actually, you are? Seriously?

Although Burke readily admits “I am driven by international rugby”, his final destination is still unknown. He could be one day replacing Finn Russell in the navy blue of Scotland, or challenging Marcus Smith for the right to wear a red rose on his chest, or cycling all the way home to the silver fern. It is all ‘Professor Plum in the billiards room with the lead pipe’ type guesswork, as things stand.

You yourself suggested it? Just theoretically? Look I hope Burke does well, but he's not really a player that has got a lot of attention, you've probably read/heard more him in this last few months than we have in his 4 years. Your own comments also suggest going overseas is a good idea to push ones case for national selection, especially for a team like NZ being so isolated. So i'll ask again, as no of your quotes obviously say one thing or the other, why don't you think he might be trying to advance his case like Leicester did?


Also, you can look at Leicesters statements in a similar fashion, where no doubt you are referring to his comments made while in NZ (still playing a big part of the WC campaign in his case). You should be no means have taken them for granted, and I'd suggest any other coach or management and he might not have returned (been wanted back).

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JW 3 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

As Razor should be, he is the All Black coach after all. Borthwick or Schmidt, not so much. The point I was trying to make is that people are comparing Razors first year (14 games) versus Fosters first 14 games, which were over two years and happened to conclude just before he lost all of his EOYT games (Ireland, France, England etc). Not to mention them being COVID level opponents.


So who were these 6 teams and circumstances of Marcus's loses? I had just written that sentence as a draft and it was still there after adding the prior sentence, so just left it there lol. So not bullying no, but left essentially to say 'i'm not going to find out of myself', yes. I thought I had already proved the need for that sort of requirement with the Razor reference. So as per above, there would be a lot of context to take out of those 14 games (those shared between Farrell Ford and Smith) against higher opponents. It's a good stat/way to highlight the your point, but all a stat like that really does is show you theres something to investigate. Had you done this investigation prior to coming to your realisation, or after?


Yes, my view is that England did very well to push New Zealand on multiple occasions, and Marcus specifically in keeping England in the game against Australia. Personally I think Englands results are more down to luck however. And as I said, I'm here to be swayed, not defend Marcus as the #1. I think I understand were you're coming from, and you make a good observation that the 10 has a fair bit to do with how fast a side can play (though what you said was a 'Marcus neutral' statement) and the same argument has been made with the All Blacks fascination with playing players like Beauden Barrett at 10 who can't orchestrate an attack like that in order to compound LQB into points. Even a 10 like Dmac is more a self creator than one that is a cog in a wider plan.


But I still don't think you'd be right if you've put down the sides lack of LQB (pretty sure I remember checking that stat) compared to the 6N as being something to do with a Marcus Smith side. We've seen other similar teams who rely on it being found out recently as well, I just think it's harder to get that flow on (lets not making it a debate about the relative strength of the hemispheres) now (hence said investigation into those games and contexts are required).


25 is also young, he is the best fit to take the side to a RWC. Ford or Farrell are not. Fin could be, but as you've said with Marcus, that would require a lot of change elsewhere in the team 2 years out of a WC. Marcus will get a 6N to prove himself so to speak, unless Fin gets in quick, I don't think you should want a change if you get a couple of reasonable results. But then you expect England to be in the top 3 of the world, let alone the 6N...

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