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Baxter does Premiership fixtures U-turn, issues update on Simmonds injury

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Exeter boss Rob Baxter has admitted he has no hang-ups about the Gallagher Premiership deciding not to bring forward fixtures to ensure there was action over the coming two weekends in England.

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Last Saturday’s high octane Exeter vs Bristol clash at Sandy Park was followed by a call by Baxter and opposite number Pat Lam for Premiership officials to bring forward two rounds of fixtures from later in the season to fill the void left by the suspension of the final two pool rounds of fixtures in Europe.   

The reasoning was to avoid a potential fixtures backlog later in the 2020/21 Premiership campaign that would force clubs into playing midweek games. 

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However, the clarification since then from Europe that they will look to change their format rather than seek extra weekends to play the suspended pool games has left Baxter making a U-turn on his initial call and instead voice his support for the two-week layoff in England.    

“Probably what myself and Pat were both looking at was that we both wanted to play Europe and we were probably concerned that if Premiership games weren’t moved and in theory creating some space, there was a risk of the Heineken Cup games having to be squeezed in or pressure of midweek fixtures being put in place like we had at the tail end of last season (in the Premiership),” he explained. 

“Now that the picture seems to be clearing a bit there doesn’t seem to be any drive to compress fixtures, that the weekends that are available are the weekends that are available for the Heineken Cup. They are four weeks (still) available and they will format it around that. 

“That changes things a little bit and obviously eases those frustrations of trying to create space. So for me, that was what it was, how are we going to create space without doubling up games in a week? It seems that nobody is (now) expecting that to happen.

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“It means that in the reality of where the country is at the moment – everyone can read the headlines around where the country is at the moment – this (Premiership break) probably now looks like a supportive measure to what is going on in the rest of the country. It feels now, in hindsight, without that need or that worry about doubling up fixtures, it’s less of an issue to me now.”

Exeter had been scheduled to play Toulouse and Glasgow in the coming weekends in Europe but they will now pick up the thread in the Premiership when they travel to Worcester on January 30, a trip that might yet involve Joe Simmonds after Baxter reported that the injury he suffered in the defeat to Bristol wasn’t as bad as it appeared.   

“He has picked up a bit of an ankle ligament injury,” he said. “The prognosis is pretty good and with this break dropping in now as it has, he is not going to be far off by the time we resume. That is another positive of the situation we are in. We feel very lucky and Joe has been lucky not to pick up anything too serious there.”   

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GrahamVF 25 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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