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Baxter revisits his pre-Sale outbreak claim that the Premiership should stop Covid testing

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Exeter boss Rob Baxter is standing by his claim that the Premiership should consider in the long run abandoning the weekly testing of squads despite the revelation that 27 Sale players and staff have tested positive this past week, plunging the business end to the English season into chaos.

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Baxter suggested in the build-up to the Chiefs’ round 21 league match at home to London Irish that there were strong reasons for the testing programme that began during the summer to be scaled back.

At that time in the 15 rounds of Premiership-monitored testing between early July and September 22, there were only 66 positives among players and staff (43 players) from a whopping total of 14,560 tests, a tiny 0.45 per cent.

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Baxter’s call came days before last Friday’s revelation that there was a major outbreak at Sale with 16 players and three staff testing positive for Covid. 

That resulted in the postponement of their Sunday match with Worcester and it was after a further eight positive tests were reported on Wednesday morning, six players and two staff, that it was eventually confirmed Sale vs Worcester was cancelled and that Bath had qualified for this Saturday’s semi-finals and would face Exeter at Sandy Park. 

The dramatic revelations surrounding Sale left Baxter’s original ‘abandon testing’ call look foolish, but he has still made a case for this to happen despite the 27 positive tests emerging at the Sharks. “It would be difficult for me to push the same line, but this is where we need to sit back and look at facts and figures,” he said on Wednesday.

“I’m not protecting what I said but I said it at a time based on three or four weeks, an ongoing conversation between club medical Covid leads across the Premiership and PRL about the validity of carrying on testing when we were picking up so few cases and while we were picking them up there was also very little transmission. 

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“When you’re testing once a week you never really know what stage that player has been in your environment and been viral. That is the truth, it’s impossible to tell. 

“And yet those one or two cases that clubs were picking up weren’t expanding once that player went into isolation or who we picked up through track and trace around training video went into isolation with them. You weren’t seeing it expanded. 

“Now it could well be that outside of Sale that continues to be the case that one or two cases are never expanding beyond that. Which way do you go? It’s almost which proves what because we don’t know what happened beyond this. 

“It would be absolutely foolish of me to sit here and say here and now we should still look to phase out testing, but I would think if you suddenly saw a return to the levels we had pre-Sale then the argument that was going on about three, four weeks previous certainly comes into play.

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“There is a reality that at £30,000-odd a month per club at clubs with zero income, how long do you want that thing to continue because there will become a financial reality that it will be impossible to do?

“At some stage, everyone needs to get their heads around this. We can keep talking about it and not dealing with the actual issue which is money is just going to run out. What are we going to do then?”

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JPM 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 2 hours ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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