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All Blacks v Pumas - What do the numbers say?

All Blacks vs Argentina

Argentina have made very little progress since joining The Rugby Championship, and the result this weekend against the All Blacks couldn’t be easier to pick. A brief glance at the stats will leave you in no doubt as to how this one will play out. The Pumas will lose, and lose handsomely.

  • The All Blacks are undefeated in 24 previous encounters with the Pumas and have won 22 on the bounce since a 21-all draw in Buenos Aires in 1985.
  • This will be the All Blacks 14th time hosting Argentina, with their last 13 such clashes ending in 13 wins by an average margin of 36 points.
  • Argentina earned three wins in New Zealand at the 2011 World Cup, beating Georgia, Scotland and Romania there.
  • This will be the first Test played at Yarrow Stadium since New Zealand defeated France there 24-9 in June 2013; the All Blacks average 64 points scored per game from their three previous appearances at the venue.
  • Los Pumas have lost their last four games away from home, the last time they lost more on the road was a five-game drought in 2013.
  • Argentina have been outscored 180-142 from five games in 2017 thus far, the only other time since 2000 that they have ended a calendar year with a negative points differential was in 2013 (-58).
  • The All Blacks have gained an average of 595m per game this tournament, more than 100m more than any other team in the competition.
    Argentina are the only team this tournament to have lost more than one lineout on their own throw (lost 3).
  • Rieko Ioane leads the tournament in tries (3), clean breaks (8), and defenders beaten (13) thus far, while only Israel Folau (255m) has gained more metres than the All Blacks flyer (254m).
  • Pablo Matera has made 20 tackles this tournament, the fourth most of any player and more than any other who is yet to miss an attempt.
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Tom 7 hours ago
Will Bristol's daredevil 'Bears-ball' deliver the trophy they crave?

Also a Bristol fan and echo your sentiments.


I love watching Bristol but their approach will only get them so far I think. Exeter played like this when they first got promoted to the prem and had intermittent success, it wasn't until they wised up and played a more balanced game that they became a consistently top side.


I really want Bristol to continue playing this brand of rugby and I don't mind them running it from under their posts but I don't think they need to do it every single time. They need to be just a little bit more selective about when and where on the pitch they play. Every game they put themselves under so much needless pressure by turning the ball over under their posts trying to do kamikaze moves when it's not required. By all means run it from your goal line if there is a chance for a counter attack, we all want to see Bristol running in 100m tries from under their posts but I think until they learn when to do it and when to be pragmatic, they are unlikely to win the premiership.


Defense has been a real positive from Bristol, they've shown a lot of improvement there... And I will say that I think this kamikaze strategy they employ is a very good one for a struggling side and could be employed by Newcastle. It's seems to have turned around Gloucester's fortunes. The big advantage is even if you don't have the biggest and best players, what you have is cohesion. This is why Scotland keep battering England. England have better individuals but they look muddled as a team, trying to play a mixed strategy under coaches who lack charisma, the team has no identity. Scotland come out and give it full throttle from 1-15 even if they struggle against the top sides, sides like England and Wales who lack that identity drown under the relentless will and synergy of the Scots. If Newcastle did the same they could really surprise some people, I know the weather is bad up there but it hasn't bothered the Scots. Bristol can learn from Scotland too, Pat is on to something when he says the following but Scotland don't play test matches like headless chickens. They still play with the same level of clarity and ambition Bristol do but they are much better at picking their moments. They needed to go back to this mad game to get their cohesion back after a couple of seasons struggling but I hope they get a bit wiser from matches like Leinster and La Rochelle.


“If there’s clarity on what you’re trying to do as a team you can win anything.”

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