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Body language expert makes bold claim after Jones questioned on Japan interview

Eddie Jones, Head Coach of Australia, speaks to the media in the post match press conference following the Rugby World Cup France 2023 match between Wales and Australia at Parc Olympique on September 24, 2023 in Lyon, France. (Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

Eddie Jones’ reported meeting with Japan prior to the World Cup was always going to be much-discussed and the inspiration for a line of inquiry in the wake of Australia’s 40-6 humbling at the hands of Wales on Sunday, effectively ending their hopes of making it out of the pool stages a week after a loss to Fiji.

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So that proved to be the case, as the head coach was peppered with questions regarding this reported interview after the match. Jones swatted the questions away without giving a definitive answer as to whether he had this interview or not.

However, body language expert Darren Stanton saw all he needed to see post match to reach his own conclusion. The man dubbed the ‘human lie detector’ claims Jones did in fact have an interview with Japan from what he has seen from the Australian’s responses.

Before being used by the likes of the BBC and ITV to analyse high profile events, Darren “spent his days investigating and dealing with liars, cheats and criminals as a Police Officer,” according to his website. He has used his skills to examine Jones’ body language, and explained why he reached the conclusion he has reached.

“It appears to me that Eddie Jones is not being honest in his press conference and I do believe that he has had an interview with Japan,” Stanton told Genting Casino recently.

“There’s a hesitancy when he’s first asked the question about Japan, he takes a small half-breath and then his blink rate goes bizarre. A blink rate is linked to a shift in emotion and we change our emotions significantly when we lie. This tells me that he has had an interview with Japan.

“His eyebrows are up and his eyes are wide, which is a sign of fear. He’s afraid he’s been rumbled and that his deception has not been bought. He shakes his head when he answers in the affirmative, which is contradictory and the language he uses is ‘lying by admission’, which means he’s skirting over it and essentially saying ‘no comment’.

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“There’s about three or four red flags throughout his answers. If he hadn’t had engaged in an interview with Japan, then it would be like an instant ‘no, I haven’t’, or something clear like that, but he’s very deflective and resorts to ‘parroting’. ‘Parroting’ is where you repeat a series of short statements or you mirror language used by an interrogator as you don’t have the time to think of a plausible response so you resort to this kind of language in an attempt to hide the truth.”

Stanton also assessed Wallabies captain Dave Porecki’s response to whether the reports had unsettled the squad prior to the crunch match against Warren Gatland’s side.

He said: “When Dave Porecki has his say on Australia’s peformance, he says ‘it’s got nothing to do with the outside nouse, it’s just got to do with our performance and we just weren’t good enough’. When he says ‘it’s got nothing to do with the outside noise’, he bites his lip a lot which tells me he’s lying because we bite our lip when we feel guilty about telling a lie and he knows that he and his coach are not telling the truth.

“He knows that the morale is really bad, at an all time low, and that is perhaps because Jones is looking to jump ship.”

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Allan 658 days ago

Is Jamie Joseph suddenly leaving Japan?? I haven't heard that - has anyone else?? Besides which they would be nuts to ditch Joseph for Jones!

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GF 658 days ago

Yes, JJ is returning to the HIghlanders - announced about 2 months ago.

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Tom 658 days ago

You don't need to be a human life detector. You can just assume what's coming out of Eddie's mouth is bullshit.

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Blanco 658 days ago

In response Japan Rugby said they could not disclose names of candidates until the selection process was concluded. They could have discounted Jones without naming candidates were he not a candidate.

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DC 660 days ago

wouldnt trust what eddie says after all he only normally stays in one country to coach a world cup before moving on again

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Dene-Paul 660 days ago

I wouldn't be surprised if he was talking to the JRU - look what he did to the Stormers in Cape Town. After he signed a binding contract and made all sorts of promises he ditched them like a hot potato to take the England job. Eddie isn't a man of his word and the only important person in his life is Eddie.

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KM 660 days ago

Maybe Rugbypass can give this guy a job for the duration of the tournament. He can analyse all the coaches and "pundits" for us. Man, that will be fun. And more important, they can replace him with that Ben Smith character's teenage opinions.

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Paul 660 days ago

If he did have a discussion with the Japanese RFU or a Japanese club as is speculated then it would appear that he had no faith in the Wallabies progressing past the first round . What other reason could there be. Personally I think it would have been a bloody stupid thing to do as it’s bound to come out at some stage in the future . He did pick a bunch of younger players which would suggest he’s in it for the long haul and as the OZ RFU gave him a supposed four year contract I think they are joined at the hips . Unless of course there was a get out clause for both parties dependant on the RWC results.

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TWAS 9 minutes ago
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I’m sorry but this just seems like incredibly selective analysis attempting to blame all team failures on JAS.


Looking through the examples:


Example 1 - long place by JAS, all support overruns the ruck. Pilfer also achieved by a player resting his arms on JAS - so should be a penalty for of his feet anyway. No failure by JAS there failing to secure the ball. By his team mates, yes.


Example 2 - a knock on punched out by the first defender who’s tackle he initially beat, from behind. An error by JAS absolutely. But every player makes the odd handling error.


Example 3 - JAS just beaten to the ruck because defender shoots to make a good tackle He passes and immediately follows. Potentially should have been a penalty to Aus because the tackler had not released and swung around into JAS’s path preventing him securing the ball, and had not released when the jackal went for the pilfer. Tackler prevented a clean release by Potter and if there was any failure, it was the ball carrier who got into a horrible position.


I am struggling how you try and blame 1 on JAS and not support, but then blame JAS when the tackler fails to make a good placement.


Example 4 - JAS flies into this ruck out of nowhere, seemingly runs past the 12 to get there. Also did you miss McReight and Williams just jogging and letting JAS run past them? Anyway he busts a get to get there but was beaten to the contest. Any failure here is on the supporting players, McReight and Williams and JAS showed great instinct to charge in to try and secure.


Example 5 - JAS is following the lead of players inside him. How this is his fault I don’t know what you are thinking


Example 6 - Gleeson misses a tackle so JAS has to drift in off his man to take the ball carrier, leaving a larger overlap when he offloads. Failure by Gleeson not JAS


Examples 7 and 8 - Wallabies defensive line isn’t aggressive. But noting to do with JAS. Fisher has actually said he is not coaching a fast line speed. To try and blame JAS is again selective.


Seems like an agenda in this rather than the genuine, quality analysis I’ve come to expect from the author.

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Jfp123 39 minutes ago
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So, you think top rugby players’ wages ought to be kept artificially low, when in fact the forces of “demand and supply” mean that many can and indeed are commanding wages higher than you approve of, and even though players regularly get injured, and those injuries can be serious enough to cut short careers and even threaten lives, e.g. Steven Kitshoff.

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As far as I can make out your objections amount to

1) they’ve sent a B team, which is not what we do and I don’t like it. Is there more to it than that? You haven’t replied to the points I made previously about sell out Tests and high ticket prices, so I take it reduced earnings are no longer part of your argument. Possibly you’re disappointed at not seeing Dupont et al., but a lot of New Zealanders think he is over rated anyway.


2) The Top 14 is paying players too much, leading to wage inflation around the world which is bad for the sport.

Firstly, young athletes have a range of sports to choose from, so rugby holding out the prospect of a lucrative, glamorous career helps attract talent.

Above all, market forces mean the French clubs earn a lot of money, and spend a large part of that money on relatively high wages, within a framework set by the league to maintain the health of the league. This framework includes the salary cap and Jiff rules which in effect limit the number of foreign stars the clubs employ and encourage the development of young talent, so there is a limit on Top14 demand. The Toulon of the 2010s is a thing of the past.


So yes, the French clubs cream off some top players - they are competitive sports teams, what do expect them to do with their money? - but there’s still a there’s a plentiful supply of great rugby players and coaches without French contracts. The troubles in England and Wales were down to mismanagement of those national bodies, and clubs themselves, not the French


So if you don’t want to let market forces determine wage levels, and you do want to prevent the French clubs from spending so much of their large incomes on players, how on earth do you want to set player wages?


Is the problem that NZ can’t pay so much as the Top 14 and you fear the best players will be lured away and/or you want NZ franchises to compete for leading international talent? Are you asking for NZ wage scales to be adopted as the maximum allowed, to achieve this? But in that case why not take Uruguay, or Spain, or Tonga or Samoa as the standard, so Samoa, a highly talented rugby nation, can keep Samoan players in Samoa, not see them leave for higher wages in NZ and elsewhere.

Rugby is played in lots of countries, with hugely varying levels of financial backing etc. Obviously, it’s more difficult for some than others, but aside for a limited amount of help from world rugby, it’s up to each one to make their sums add up, and make the most of the particular advantages their nation/club/franchise has. SA are not the richest, but are still highly successful, and I don’t hear them complaining about Top14 wages.


Many, particularly second tier, nations benefit from the Top14, and anyone genuinely concerned about the whole community of world rugby should welcome that. England and NZ have laid down rules so they can’t make the most of the French competition, which is up to them. But unlike some NZ fans and pundits, the English aren’t generally blaming their own woes on the French, rather they want reform of the English structure, and some are calling for lessons to learned from their neighbours across the channel. If NZ fans aren’t satisfied, I suggest they call for internal reform, not try to make the French scapegoats.


In my opinion, a breach of standards would be to include on your team players who beat up women, not to regularly send a B team on the summer tours for reasons of player welfare, which in all the years you’ve been doing this only some of the pundits and fans of a single country have made a stink about.


[my comments here are, of course, not aimed at all NZ fans and pundits]

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