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Bordeaux recruit an ex-referee but deal for former AB Saili is off

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Laurent Cardona has become the latest retired referee to join the staff of a Top 14 club, linking up with Bordeaux for the 2022/23 season but he now reportedly won’t be working there with former All Blacks midfielder Francis Saili. Capped twice in 2013, the 31-year-old Aucklander was contracted to relegated Biarritz until June 2024.

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However, he was recently named on the list of 19 Biarritz leavers with the club making preparations for its return to Pro D2 and it was expected that Saili would move on to Bordeaux, the Top 14 semi-finalists. For weeks that move appeared to be a done deal but it has not come to fruition and French media are now reporting that Saili could head home to New Zealand.

Rugbyrama.fr reported: “For several weeks, recruiters have been working on the arrival of Francis Saili but the last negotiations carried out this week have been unsuccessful. The Biarritz player, who will leave the club despite a current contract until June 2024, could suddenly return to New Zealand.”

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Cardona, meanwhile, had conducted several training sessions this past season for Bordeaux and having now whistled his last Top 14 match at the age of 45, he will become a coach at the club to help them with officiating.

Recruiting a recently retired referee is becoming quite a French trend as Jerome Garces has worked with the France national team that won the recent 2022 Guinness Six Nations Grand Slam, Alexandre Ruiz is working for Top 14 finalists Montpellier while Romain Poite has been unveiled as a Toulon signing for the 2022/23 season.

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Cardona told French media: “Christophe (Urios) wants me to bring him precision in the rulings. Bordeaux-Begles is a very high-level club which has ambitions. From July 1, I’ll be UBB all the way!”

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JW 4 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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