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Borthwick sidesteps Smith, blames other factors for record defeat

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England boss Steve Borthwick has refused to blame his bold selection of Marcus Smith to start at No10 and drop skipper Owen Farrell to the bench for Saturday’s embarrassing 53-10 Guinness Six Nations loss to France. So dreadfully blunt were the English that numerous fans exited their seats rather than watch the end of the seven-tries-to-one rout in which the major talking point in the build-up was the head coach’s decision to axe Farrell and promote Smith from the bench.

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Borthwick claimed on Thursday after that dramatic selection alteration was confirmed: “I believe this is the right team with all the different considerations I put into it and all the different factors against a very good French team.”

Some 50 hours later, though, he was singing a very different tune after the number of bum notes that were orchestrated by his out-of-sorts No10, who offered little or nothing by way of creativity. Borthwick, however, sidestepped the impact of that massive selection call on his England team, insisting that the match was instead lost in so many other sectors.

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“At this stage, that wasn’t the main bearing on the game,” said the rookie Test-level head coach whose record in charge now reads two wins and two defeats, the most recent loss the sort of humiliation that would cost a Premier League football manager his job no matter how few weeks he was in that role.

“The main bearer on the game was around that contact area where you saw almost from the first couple of scores in the first couple of breaks where France were able to dominate the tackle area and offload. While we understood that was a major threat, off the back of that with (Gregory) Alldritt carrying and offloading and (Antoine) Dupont playing off that quick ball, we weren’t able to stop it.”

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If the dismissed Edie Jones was still in charge of England, his post-match media briefing would have witnessed the use of some colourfully diversionary words to lessen the damaging blow. Look at how he claimed after the November hammering by South Africa that England were somehow “going in the right direction” and “not far away” despite that heavy loss.

Borthwick hadn’t that type of spin in his post-England game vocabulary. Plain talking was his MO and it left you wondering if he genuinely does possess the sort of inspiration necessary to lead England out of this damaging period and on to better things at the World Cup in six months’ time.

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“We are incredibly disappointed with the performance. Immense credit to the French team. Their power and pace and class showed and that showed where the gap is. I said before the game it was a formidable challenge and it turned out (that way). They played exceptionally well, we played poorly and we have got to learn from it and be better.

“The key is we know where we are… we go from playing the second-best team in the world who showed just how much better they are than we currently are, and then next week we play Ireland who are the best team in the world. I said we would have a good understanding of where we are at a team at the end of this championship, and you can see how much work we have got to do.

“When you lose the collision that badly in defence and give the opposition opportunity, quick ball, offloads, and you lose it in attack where you are not able to generate quick ball and it turns into turnovers at the breakdown, especially in conditions like that, then it is hard to get a foothold in the game and that was exactly the case today.”

French power was the lethal killer. “You saw their power. While we had plans in place to play in a certain way to mitigate against that power advantage that they had, we didn’t execute well enough and made errors, we weren’t able to execute those plans.

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“And they were so good that they stopped us doing what we wanted to do, so credit to them for that. What we have got to do is go away and make sure that we understand what went wrong and how we make sure we are better in that challenge going forward.

“No one is under any illusions of what we have got to do. We have been pretty upfront with that throughout and today just shows exactly the stark reality of what that is about. While we wanted to understand exactly how the development of this team has gone and where we are in comparison to the best teams in the world, we found against the second-best team in the world we fell considerably short. That is the reality. My job is to make sure we can learn faster, improve faster than any other team.”

That will be difficult to do when the grim reality is that England under Borthwick are getting nowhere in the quicksand inherited from the Jones era.

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Denis 650 days ago

Don't let the "historic loss" thing fool you : those are cycles, and they always existed. Nations have golden generations and then things go south... the only difference between now and the 80ies, for instance, is the fact that everybody is pro. Any level disparity translates into a lot of points.
I'm french and i remember quite vividly a 44-8 loss at Twickenham in 2019. We were losing everything in those days, and 2019 was not such a long time ago.
England is in transition, going through a tough time, but the english will make a come back as they always do. They just need a bit of time.

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lot 650 days ago

Missing Eddie Jones now anyone 🤣 . EJ still managed to contain the loss and gave hope (albeit misleading as we can see now) that his England team was in the right direction. master coach 💥 . even misled English fans into false sense of superiority. how could a Rookie coach borthwick be so delusional to even think he was even close to EJ. what a laugh... some bold selection indeed. Farrell is a master defensive general. Did anyone see Genge just lamely nonchalantly joining the defence line in their tryline, onfrench second try. no urgency. just plain lazy and scared may be? Wow.. Borthwick era. welcome to Mediocre club

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Neb 650 days ago

Bring back Sir Clive Woodward. He won us the World Cup in 2003. He knows how to get a team winning. Borthwick seems completely out of his depth. Slow and ponderous.

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paul 650 days ago

Does this show that at club level the English game is, and has been for some time, a long way behind the French and Irish ? Is there a case of too many 'non-English' players in the Premiership - clubs having 2 or 3 overseas marquee players is great, especially if it's helping the English players in the team but the make-up of starting 15s for every club is tipped in favour of non-English players - surely we have to start somewhere bringing our own talent through

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finn 651 days ago

"If the dismissed Edie Jones was still in charge of England, his post-match media briefing would have witnessed the use of some colourful diversion words to lessen the damaging blow." if eddie was in charge england wouldnt have lost by 50 points

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Coach 651 days ago

England were just too disjointed in the attack and defense. You can see how well the French players know each other, coupled with superior skills, it was a few bridges too far to have even expected anything other than a 30 point win. How may English players would make the French starting 15? Maybe 1 at most 2...My point is made.

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JW 2 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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