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Burke eyeing Test honours with eligibility for 2 Six Nations sides

Fergus Burke of the Crusaders makes a break during the round 13 Super Rugby Pacific match between Moana Pasifika and Crusaders at Mt Smart Stadium, on May 19, 2023, in Auckland, New Zealand. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

CEO of the Crusaders Colin Mansbridge has insisted the lure of an international career with England or Scotland rather than a large salary is the main reason Fergus Burke has opted to leave New Zealand and take on the daunting role of replacing Owen Farrell, who is quitting Saracens to join Racing 92 next season.

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Mansbridge, speaking on The Platform in New Zealand, said the fact Burke qualifies for England through his mother and Scotland thanks to his grandparents played a crucial role in his decision-making. Gregor Townsend already has Burke on his radar having unsuccessfully tried to place the outside half with Glasgow Warriors.

Mansbridge explained: “Fergus is eligible for three nations, ourselves, England and Scotland and we are disappointed to see him go. He is a good man and has worked really hard on himself in the (Crusaders) environment. We understand completely that when you are eligible for three countries it makes your decision-making more complex.

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“I think the short answer is that it is probably not just about the money. They (Saracens) have been fairly clear talking to him about what his aspirations could be and so it is not just about money. There is also experience and we have seen it with other athletes who have made calls to grow themselves with other experiences.”

Burke, who was born in Gisborne, is recovering from an Achilles injury and will link up with the Saracens squad this summer having made 33 appearances for the Christchurch-based outfit since making his debut in 2020 and has represented New Zealand U20s in the World Championship in Argentina.

Saracens veteran wing Sean Maitland moved from New Zealand and launched a successful Test career that won him 53 Scotland caps while flanker Andy Christie, who has just sustained a broken arm, is a current member of Townsend’s Scotland squad.

Burke faces stiff competition if he opts for England with Harlequins Marcus Smith and Northampton Saints’ Fin Smith battling with George Ford for the No10 jersey.

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Johnny 228 days ago

There isn’t a hope this fella gets capped by England. He is super rugby level but nowhere near international level for a top 5 side. England have Fin Smith, Marcus Smith and George Ford ahead and better than him. If he throws his hat in with the Scots he might be successful and get afew caps further down the line. Russell, Kinghorn and Healy are superior players in their all round games but he’d get ahead of Hastings and Redpath who are very average.

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MattJH 229 days ago

Good on him for taking the opportunity, very disappointing for New Zealand though.
Sure he isn’t an international quality 10 right now, but he is still developing.
Remember Jamison Gibson Park? Hardly worth a starting a starting spot in a Super Rugby side, moved to Ireland, became one of the best 9s in the game.
There was something about the environment in Ireland that brought the best out of JGP.
Hopefully Fergus Burke finds something similar at Saracens.
Still, a disappointing loss for New Zealand.

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monty 230 days ago

Showed promise but 3o games not looked at for abs and not a mention by razor. So hedging the bets he’ll get buried somewhere in the north like the multitude of other wannabes.

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David 230 days ago

well scott robertson could select him as well

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kent 230 days ago

So he has a closer link to England, but that won’t put the Scotch off.

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Jasyn 230 days ago

Given the current lack of quality 10s in NZ and his history with Razor, you’d fancy yourself being in with a shout at least.

Oh well, if no one else wants him Scotland arent one of the most imported teams in rugby for nothing. They’ll take anyone.

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Ed the Duck 230 days ago

If he plays for England does that mean England have been reduced to mopping up kiwi rejects???

Now, where did Shields, Heinz and Waldrom all come from again…🤔🤣

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Dan 230 days ago

He'll definitely play for Scotland. Can’t see him getting in ahead of Ford or the Smiths.

And Scotland love selecting Kiwis. Or anyone who isn’t Scottish.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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