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'Call a spade a spade': Sonny Bill Williams says current All Blacks don't like pressure

All Blacks dejected after the try of Malcolm Marx of the Springboks during the Castle Lager Rugby Championship match between South Africa and New Zealand at DHL Stadium on September 07, 2024 in Cape Town, South Africa. (Photo by Ashley Vlotman/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Former All Blacks midfielder Sonny Bill Williams says that the current day All Blacks team “don’t like it” when faced with pressure at the international level.

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After they let three possible wins go during the Rugby Championship with late fades in the final quarter, Williams believes that they “struggle” when the going gets tough.

He believes it comes from the style of play in Super Rugby Pacific where scoring as many tries as possible is the modus operandi where defences are not as tight as the  international level.

“It’s a good question, I feel like you build that DNA just through winning games,” Williams told Off The Ball.

“We were very fortunate to have the squad that we had in that era, and South Africa have that now.

“It’s a hard one but I feel that New Zealand, the All Blacks, if we are going to call a spade a spade, when the going gets tough, when the microscope is put heavily on them, they don’t like to feel the pressure.

“We like to blow teams away at the minute, it’s kind of like that Super Rugby style of play. The way your leading, playing well, everything is free flowing and things are comfortable as a rugby player.

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“But as soon as the heat comes on, as soon as that battle intensifies, and we’ve seen it. Like you said, three out of the last six games, that last 20 minute period when the heat is on, we’re struggling and falling away.”

The solution according to the former All Black is to change the way they use the bench to fight “power with power”.

The top two ranked nations, Ireland and South Africa, routinely select less than three backs on their bench, while the All Blacks have stayed true to their formula.

“I try and look at the things from an open perspective. We can’t just blow teams away anymore,” Williams said.

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“We’ve got to look at what the greatest teams in the world at the moment are doing, what’s Ireland doing, what’s South Africa doing?

“Example, the Bomb Squad, they’ve been putting no backs on the bench, these guys are crazy. Well, how about we meet power with power?

“We’ve got Beauden Barrett that can play a few different positions, we’ve got Rieko Ioane who can slide onto the wing.

“How about we mix it up and put Dalton Papali’i on the bench? We should be carrying an extra forward. We’ve got the depth, we’ve got the talent, I just feel like the coaches need to accept that we are not where we once were.

“We’ve got to fight power with power, test the waters so to speak.”

 

 

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GH 37 days ago

AB never liked pressure. Every time pressure as been applied on them they struggled to fit. But in the good old time of SBW, nobody dared and they were kings of the world (Nevertheless I do remember some rough french games :P ). Nothing changed but today everybody notice "the king is naked"

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Km 37 days ago

. The all blacks are rebuilding and have struggled to put in an 80 minute performance. Being on and off in their game for differing periods through out games. It’s likely more time to get the new game plans set, confidence in the combinations and time together on the paddock. Hopefully that will bring the consistency needed. The other reason the old dominance is gone is the rest of the world have improved significantly and standards internationally are at an all time high.

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johnz 37 days ago

Sonny has a point, I was thinking the same thing during our recent run of second half meltdowns. Once the pressure goes on, everything falls apart. You can blame the bench, but you have to also blame the leaders, most of them who play for 80 minutes. That's why Cane is there right?


Razor blames execution and discipline, but these are just symptoms, not the cause. When teams are under pressure, those things are the first to go out the window.


To some degree it has always been an achilles heel of the ABs (at least it was at WCs), except for the period of dominance starting in 2011. That era came about after Henry and McCaw realised after the 2007 disaster that mental strength under pressure was the fundamental weak spot that needed fixing.


Under Foster things went drastically south, and many of the same leaders have been retained. There's something not quite clicking when the chips are down.


Look at young players like Sititi, Ratima and Roigard, they seem unburdened by the weight of pressure when things are going wrong. Perhaps they don't have the same baggage to carry like some of our older stalwarts.


Hopefully Razor will see the problem for what it is. He seems like the right guy to sort it out. But so far his reliance on the old guard and their experience does not seem to be working.

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Bull Shark 38 days ago

Sonny Bill just hasn’t learned his lesson - if he wants to criticize the ABs, he needs to do it anonymously with all the kiwis who do it online.


Otherwise he needs to toe the line and be compliant. Or his legacy as a great All Black will be called into question by people who think they know better than him.

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Km 37 days ago

lol Sonny bill was a good player but he does love the attention

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SadersMan 38 days ago

Is that you Sonny?

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Forward pass 38 days ago

Nah he was misquoted. He actually said "NZ doesnt like Pizza"

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MN 38 days ago

The All Blacks main weapon is their backs - by using a 6-2 split, you end up with backs with less caps/experience. Suddenly you have an excess of forwards and can't work out your main forwards run-on team (which the Boks are doing now)

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Km 37 days ago

We simply don’t have the size to put two large packs on for 40 mins each. We have genuine athletes who can run for 80 minutes. Go back to 15 players and two injury replacements and we would once again dominate the last 20 minutes as the boks and others with the exception of Ireland and maybe Aussie don’t have a 5 that can play for 50 mins let alone 80 mins.

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JWH 37 days ago

We already have an excess of world class forwards though😭

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AllyOz 38 days ago

Silly Billy

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Jordon 38 days ago

SBW right about some things but to say the boys don't like pressure is rubbish. It's what they live for. But as he says the bench split needs to change. All the backs bar the 9 should be able to play 80min. 6-2 split at most for the backs. A good bench or a dominant 10 will get you through the last quarter. So far this season the ABs have had neither.

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Bull Shark 38 days ago

The ABs were once renowned for their BMT - particularly in the last quarter. Whether they were ahead or behind they finished their opponents off.


SBW is correct. The modern AB team seems to wilt in the last 20 and certainly look more rattled than previous eras when under pressure.


I do think you’re right about the bench and strength at 10. It might be the reason they look less confident closing out games.

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PC 38 days ago

Kiwis are so use to play open rugby and can't cope with tight games at international level. Bring back sonny.

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SadersMan 38 days ago

Didn't we just beat ENG in two tight tests to open this season. With a new squad missing several greats & a new coaching team. And losing two tight tests v BOKs in RSA is hard enough for any squad let alone a new one playing only its 6th & 7th tests together. But yes, they'll definitely need to show some growth on tour.

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JK 38 days ago

ABs are not invincible and better parity amongst the leading teams is good for the game. Take your time and rebuild properly.

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B 38 days ago

960 All Black Caps departed after RWC 2023, and you can't replace that after playing just 9 matches.


The coaching personnel have now been locked in and sorted and the upcoming EOYT 2024 will see where the All Blacks are at in terms of being mentally and physically fit, healthy and injury free to address all the above.


Go the All Blacks...onwards and upwards...going forward.

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GrahamVF 37 days ago

The All Blacks only have 13 out of 33 players in their current squad who have less than 20 tests the Boks in their 33 have 19 which is an indication that SA have been developing their squad quicker than NZ. Bu the time this AB squad matures the Boks will have another full squad of seasoned test players to take over from the current run on team.

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Forward pass 38 days ago

Yes there is way too much angst but its mainly coming from OS rygby fans not from NZ. Seems if NZ gets beaten its the end of the world for NZ according to them but if Ireland or SA get beaten nothing gets written. NZ has only lost 1 more match than SA this year and SA has had 1 match v Portugal and 1 v Wales. 2 easy beats of world rugby.

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Nickers 38 days ago

Accurate.


ABs persisting with a 5-3 bench split with so much versatility in the backline is such a waste. Virtually the whole backline can cover 1 other position, some can cover 3.

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Ed the Duck 38 days ago

Wow! Kiwis on here already turning on one of their all time greats for his opinion!!!


But he is bang on with his analysis and that’s why SR has dragged the All Blacks back into the pack. And don’t expect it to change any time soon…

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Forward pass 38 days ago

Hows your team going? We are 3rd in the world in a total rebuilding phase and it still takes TMO's to allow SA to win the 1st test.

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SadersMan 38 days ago

He was never an "all time great", used mostly off the bench. Merely blessed to be amongst several legends of the game at their peaks (which also elevated him). More of a super-sub if you like (but not when getting sent off red in a 2017 Lions test, that is).

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SC 38 days ago

SBW is not an all time great rugby player.


He never held down a starting position in any of his seasons playing for the All Blacks.


He was not a starter in any RWC playoff tests in2011, 2015, or 2019.


He was a career backup.

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Bull Shark 38 days ago

Agreed. The ABs traditional strength of playing extremely well under pressure dissipated under Ian Foster. They get rattled easily. Much like some of their fans when anyone says anything remotely critical about their team.

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SadersMan 38 days ago

Okay then, a spade is a spade & Sonny's an idiot.

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Bull Shark 38 days ago

🤣🤣🫵🏼🤡

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AllyOz 38 days ago

Agree, good player (in a great side), excellent rugby league player, passable boxer (though I don't know how he would have went with two more rounds against Botha) but, in terms of TV commentator....well it doesn't measure up to his excellence in other fields.

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MM 38 days ago

Saders if only you had played as many tests as SBW then Kiwis can take you seriously. I think the Irish are gunning for the Kiwis in November and have their number. SBW is saying wat everybody thinks about the current ABs.

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CD older/wiser 39 days ago

Don't believe too much SBW has to say, GL is probably with right regards to Papalii and the best feature of Rieko Ioane is his mouth!!

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GL 39 days ago

Very true but no papalii pls he wilts under pressure

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Toaster 38 days ago

At least he doesn’t get injured every other game

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JW 1 hour ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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