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Champions Cup : le Stade Français paie encore cher son indiscipline

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PARIS, FRANCE - 15 DÉCEMBRE : Liam Williams des Saracens plonge pour marquer le premier essai malgré la présence de Jeremy Ward pendant le match de l'Investec Champions Cup entre le Stade Français Paris et les Saracens au Stade Jean-Bouin le 15 décembre 2024 à Paris, France. (Photo David Rogers/Getty Images)

Le Stade Français, sanctionné d’un carton rouge dès la 21e minute et de deux cartons jaunes, ne pouvait prétendre à grand-chose d’autre qu’une défaite face aux Saracens.

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Après une bonne entame, le Stade Français, réduit à 14 après l’exclusion de Sekou Macalou, s’est incliné face aux Anglais des Saracens 28-17, dimanche à Jean-Bouin pour la 2e journée de Champions Cup.

Pendant 20 minutes, les Parisiens avaient pourtant le match en main, menant 10 à 0 face aux coéquipiers des internationaux anglais Maro Itoje et Jamie George, grâce notamment à un essai de Dakuwaqa (4e) servi derrière une grosse mêlée du Stade Français.

Graphique d'évolution des points

Saracens gagne +11
Temps passé en tête
29
Minutes passées en tête
46
35%
% du match passés en tête
56%
61%
Possession sur les 10 dernières minutes
39%
0
Points sur les 10 dernières minutes
7

Mais comme au Munster (33-7), où les Soldats roses avaient coulé après avoir reçu deux cartons rouges, l’indiscipline a gâché ce bon début de match, Macalou étant logiquement expulsé pour avoir plongé épaule en avant sur Ivan van Zyl, après lui avoir réalisé un croche-pied.

Face à des Anglais peu inspirés, les Parisiens ont ensuite subi, encaissant deux essais par Liam Williams (24e) et George (46e), avant de réagir grâce à Léo Barré (69e). Mais le pack anglais, en puissance, a privé les Parisiens du bonus défensif avec l’essai de Theo Dan (74e).

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JW 6 hours ago
'Razor's conservatism is in danger of halting New Zealand's progress'

Haha yeah I know, sorry I just cbf doing anything other than sprouting the garbage that comes in. You either follow the train of thought or don't most the time, that's why I like you, happy to not take it serious like, and reply regardless.

Haha more imaginary rational. You mean in 2018 and 19 he used 36 new players?

more = you're following in Saders footsteps (here I go again assuming you know what I'll mean haha)

imaginary = fictitious world cups (no WC in 2018)

by "months before" you mean 2018/19? = because you wrote 2018 i'm assuming that's because your brain was thinking about that year when he used most of those 36 players

36 new players = because it's absolutely impossible to use 36 new players in the handful of games you get, or "months", before a WC

Doesn't really sound like good coaching and reinforces other theories. Wouldn't spread that.

Doesn't really sound like good coaching = that is waay to many players no matter what way you spin it, or what period. Where did you even get the data for that from?

reinforces other theories = no need to go into them here but it definitely suggests a case of being lucky to win despite the fact (if true) imo

Wouldn't spread that = cheekyness about above point


So yeah, you can see why I don't try to elaberate my posts so everyone can understand and sadly theyre too succinct for some with a slightly different lingo or thought.

and two years of >85% win ratio on the trot - I’d love to see how he’d have down with better coaching.

the none TLDR version reply..

two years = but weren't you following the similar line of this article that Razor needs to open it up? Why would you think that when you're suggesting he's got another 3 or 4 years before he reaches that point in tenure when he should also be trying to hit the 85 mark?

>85% win ratio on the trot = WC years are short and provide easy opposition, you don't normally include them. 22 would be more relevant, and this year you had both other top teams at home, so you'd think that 85 number is overs, or 'above' average based on circumstances (85 is a really fabulous number however so going back to 80 would also still be great)

love to see how he’d have done with better coaching. = well it's exactly the opposite of above isn't it, it's operating at well over 70 for 4 (excl covid) of those 7 years instead of his 60%, before hitting the 80s mark.


You might also ask well how could that be possible when he's done so bloody well just to do what he's done? Well I'm not going to take him (or SA) down a beg or two, instead I'll give you the hint (because I'm over thinking how to type long versions of replys), the answer is in this article!


Can you think of any specific players that became instrumental to the team from those 36 new players? One's plucked out of nowhere so to speak? I know for the first two years after covid he switched up you're team and tactics after each game against NZ (for the second), I think winning both 1st games and losing both rematch's? You don't think he should ever have done that differently, not been so happy to give up a victory against the ABs?

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