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CJ Stander on the poignancy of being in Paris last Friday, the day that would have been the late Anthony Foley's 47th birthday

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CJ Stander has spoken about how his recent Six Nations trip to Paris with Ireland left him vividly remembering the late Anthony Foley, the Munster coach who tragically passed away in the French capital city four years ago. 

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Last Friday, the night before Ireland took on France in the 2020 Six Nations finale, would have been Foley’s 47th birthday and it wasn’t lost on Stander how he was staying with the Irish squad in a hotel close to the Arc de Triomphe just a 5km walk from the hotel at Pont de Suresnes where Foley and the Munster squad were staying on that tragic October 2016 weekend.  

Casting his mind back to that awful Sunday morning when Munster learned that Foley had died in his sleep overnight prior to a European match at Racing 92, Stander told the Irish Daily Star: “My biggest thing was the family, to see if someone was really struggling and have a conversation with them because there was that uncertainty. 

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    “No-one knew what was going on. There were people around, people were running, people were crying, it was almost like a war zone. That’s probably not the right words to use but there was confusion everywhere so I just wanted to make sure everyone was understanding what was going on and that there was no uncertainty.

    “When you get to a situation like that there are so many people with different personalities so I tried to figure how every person ticked and what I could do for them to make them feel comfortable.

    “That was the main thing, especially with Axel’s dad, Brendan, and he had a few friends that came to the hotel. I just wanted to make sure that they at least had a cup of coffee. It’s probably just a thing I would like to happen for me if something like that happens in my family.”

    Stander added: “That void was a difficult thing to fill and to move on from because you see pictures of him and you talk to people about him, and especially working closely with him the last few years. Still to this day, talking to Olive (Foley’s widow) and seeing his sisters and his mum and dad, it’s a tough thing to talk about because you see them and you want to talk about him, and you want to celebrate him.

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    “For me anyway there’s still that void, as if almost he’s going to walk around the corner today, he’s going to walk into the room. He was a massive big, big loss for me personally and for the province in general. He was a class act and a class man.

    “It’s not even the day we think about him, for me especially, we talk about him, he pops up in a few conversations during the year as well, and it just shows the calibre of the man.”

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    JW 44 minutes ago
    Broken hand or not, Richie Mo'unga is still New Zealand's best 10

    I agree that he chose to go - but when he was starting for the All Blacks and it was clear that Scott Roberston was going to be the coach in 2024

    That’s not the case at all. There was huge fear that the continued delaying was going to cause Robertson to go. That threat resulted in the unpresented act of appointing a new coach, after Richie had left I made add that I recall, during a WC cycle.

    Mo’unga was finally going to get the chance to prove he was the better 10 all along - then he decides to go to Japan.

    Again, No. He did that without Razor (well maybe he played a part from within the Crusaders environment) needing to be the coach.

    He’d probably already earned 3-4 million at that stage. The NZRU would’ve given him the best contract they could’ve, probably another million or more a year.

    Do some googling and take a look at the timelines. That idea you have is a big fallacy.

    I also agree to those who say that Hansen and Foster never really gave Mo’unga a fair go. They both only gave Mo’unga a real shot when it was clear their preferred 10’s weren’t achieving/available; they chucked him in the deep end at RWC 2019, and Foster only gave him a real shot in 2022 when Foster was about to be dropped mid-season.

    That’s the right timeline. But I’d suggest it was just unfortunate Mo’unga (2019), they probably would have built into him more appropriately but Dmac got injured and Barrett switched to fullback. Maybe not the best decisions those, Hansen was making clangers all over the show, but yeah, there was also the fact Barrett was on millions so became ‘automatic’, but even before then I thought Richie would have been the better player.


    Yep Reihana in 2026, and Love in 2025! I don’t think Richie had anything to prove, this whole number 1 thing is bogus.

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    JW 1 hour ago
    Broken hand or not, Richie Mo'unga is still New Zealand's best 10

    Should Kiwi players contracted to overseas clubs be available to the All Blacks?

    Well I didn’t realise that Ardie was returning to Moana in 2027, I thought he would go back to the Hurricanes (where he is on loan from). That is basically a three year sabbatical, and if say SR was able to move it’s season back, and JRLO, it’s forward (or continue later into June), and have a Club Pacific Cup to play for against each other for over 2 months, how much difference is that to the allowance of 3 All Blacks to be loaned to Moana each season?


    Granted, the 3 AB quota is probably only something put in during the beginning of their existence to give them a boost but maybe NZR don’t find too many downsides from it? The new tournament could be regulated heavily, all teams data open to the respective unions to monitor their players in overseas teams etc.

    “They’ve earned the opportunity; they’ve been loyal, they get to go away and come back.” In this respect, there is no difference between Jordie and Richie

    There is a huge difference here! Richie didn’t want to come back, he is staying in Japan FFS LOL

    That freedom of choice is what sticks in Robinson’s craw

    I doubt it’s that, I think it’s more the look of not getting your man. Though if Robinson was to think deeper on it, it could have fuel a hatred of allowing “free men”, yes.

    It leaves New Zealand rugby in something of a quandary

    You mean NZR? No, I think it leaves the player in a quandary..

    This is no washed-up has-been seeking to improve his pension plan in some easy far corner of planet rugby, it is a player still near the peak of his powers and marked by his resilience in the face of adversity.

    I had been thinking in all likely hood it had been looking more and more likey; Richie would need to switch allegiance if he really was in a quandary about what he could achieve. With a typical normal NH player returning Mo’unga would have arguable had more time in the saddle at International level if he choose Samoa or Tonga, but then I realised that JRLO players return so early in the year that he will still be able to join club rugby, and doesn’t need to wait for NPC.


    Richie’s two further titles probably haven’t helped the situation. Arguably one of the reasons he underperformed on the International stage was because of the ease of his domestic success. He struggled for a long time with what it actually meant to be a top player, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if he has lapsed back into that mindset playing in the JRLO. But if he could return to NZ in May or June next year, and selectable in July, well I would back him to then have enough time to get back to where he was when he nearly won a WC with the team on his shoulders.


    On the other hand, a team made of up of Mircale Fai’ilagi, Taufa Funaki?, Richie, Lalomilo Lalomilo, Tele’a, Shaun Stevenson would be pretty baller for Samoa as well!

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