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Did innovative England emerge strongest from the Six Nations?

Mzilikazi 17 minutes ago

Very interesting article, Nick. Thanks for writing. I have not even read a full report on the game yet, let alone watched it. So it is all news to me. Fascinating move, so many backrowers and 7’s on the field at the one time.

I must say though, that I do ponder on how well England would have done against the Boks, AB’s, or France playing as they have done at the end of the 6 N. I think any of those teams would have almost certainly exposed Earl playing at centre, and they would have been in a different world to Wales as opponents.

My view is that England have had a lot of good fortune in this 6 N. On another day, France would not have dropped so much ball, and would have defended those last two tries way better. Scotland would have beaten England had Russell got any one of three kicks between the posts. I do think that England still don’t fully use the back resources they have, and could be badly exposed by any one of the top three teams in the world, which I would see as the three I named above. Though Ireland still sit third, that is, imo, very tenuous.

And it has been a funny old 6 N this year, with Ireland also having had a fair measure of good fortune. They also could have lost the games against Italy, and Wales too. They have dropped away badly.

Did innovative England emerge strongest from the Six Nations?

Tom 18 minutes ago

It's certainly hard to read too much into a demolition of a struggling Welsh side in terms of how that will transpire against better teams.

What I can say is that it was a very good performance. There was genuine trepidation about a resurgent Wales side playing at home with nothing to lose and England blew them away. England weren't ruthless enough to do the same to Italy the week before. It's a step in the right direction. It would be really cool if we could take some of this innovation and build on it. I'd hate for it to be built on sand and come crashing down the next time a bomb squad trundles across the touchline.

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AA 41 minutes ago

Firstly England were terrific for 82 minutes and deserve the plaudits.

Borthwick, though, must be the luckiest coach around .

Had a broken arm not occured Marcus would still be no 10 , had Russell put the kick over and France not dropped the ball , had Lawrence not been injured the scenario would be very different .

England beat the worst team in the northern hemisphere , let’s not get carried away .

The forwards scored 6 of the 10 tries and Mitchell’s was somewhat flukish .

The speed and power of play was the difference and the forwards were unrecognisable from previous games.

Had Marcus had such a ride in his games he too would have been praised for his play .

Ford came on against a poor and beaten team with the score 40 up . Easy peasy. Short memories fail to remember against Nz and Aus , top teams, he lost both games.

The changes were forced on Borthwick , not by natural selection and they have been all for the better.

Let's trust this is the start of bigger things and the excellent squad Borthwick has kick on . No pun intended.

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Mark 53 minutes ago

I still think Englands 6 nations was a curates egg, both good and bad in parts, and it’s still far to early to declare that Borthwick and Co have now created a team to take on all comers.

This England sides win ratio against sides ranked above them is still pitifull.

The Autumn will tell us much more.

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Bob Salad II 1 hour ago

Bizarre supporting England at the moment. They’ve been playing well, but losing then playing badly and losing and now, playing well’ish and winning. Of course, the latter is better and suggest progression, but the former are still fresh in the memory and I think many England supporters like myself and not getting too carried away as it’s equally possible they’ll regress again in the Autumn.

The summer tour to Argentina will be largely a development tour, so it’s looking like it’ll be Australia at home in November before we see a fully loaded England team again.

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JD Kiwi 2 hours ago

Did innovative England emerge strongest from the Six Nations?

From a kiwi point of view it would be great if a fleet of 7s could consistently give a big 7/1 bomb squad the run around. That will be helped if World Rugby continue to learn from Super Rugby and the Premiership.

Although I wouldn't take too much from a win over anyone not employing a seven forward bench, especially Wales. SA and France are winning the big trophies for a reason.