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Courtney Lawes wants Lions call but won't do England U-turn – report

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Courtney Lawes has issued a come-and-get-me call to Andy Farrell, the likely head coach of the 2025 British and Irish Lions. The Northampton forward called time last month on his England career following their third-place finish at the Rugby World Cup.

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Despite being in excellent form at France 2023 and also skippering Steve Borthwick’s team in their early matches at the tournament versus Argentina and Japan, the 34-year-old decided that he won’t be available any longer for his country.

Now back at the Saints and playing in the Gallagher Premiership, he insisted he won’t be making a U-turn on his decision and declaring himself available for the 2024 Guinness Six Nations.

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However, he told media this week at his club’s conference ahead of next Saturday’s trip to Saracens that he wouldn’t say no if he was selected to tour Australia with the Lions in 2025 at the age of 36.

“If, through some kind of fluke, I got another Lions call, I would probably do that,” enthused Lawes. “But I can’t imagine with the amount of good back-rowers we have got in Britain and Ireland I would get on the tour anyway.

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“It’s two years away, but because it is in Australia I would definitely bring the family out for the whole trip. But I won’t be playing internationally then, so you couldn’t test me on that stage. I might not be playing rugby at all. Who knows? We will see what happens.”

England are currently enduring a post-World Cup injury crisis in their back row as Tom Curry and Ben Earl, the two players Lawes packed down with in last month’s semi-final versus South Africa, are currently sidelined. Curry’s hip operation has ruled him out of the rest of the season while Earl had surgery last week on his meniscus and will be out for between six to eight weeks.

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“It is my luck we have got a back row crisis when I am actually fit,” Lawes commented. “Normally I am part of the back row crisis. But I would have to get the call first.

“No, I am done to be honest. I didn’t stop playing internationally because I thought I couldn’t play or couldn’t get in the team; I stopped playing because I need to be here for my little ones, and that hasn’t changed. I know the back row might have changed a bit, but that hasn’t.

Lawes, who was on the Lions tours to New Zealand in 2017 and South Africa in 2021, has a 10-year-old, an eight-year-old, and twins who are nearly six.

“Playing for England is special to me, but you are at home for two months then you are away for two months, then you are home and you never really get a chance to settle in and create any structure in your life for you and your kids. A Lions tour is once every four years and is just a different occasion.”

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The veteran’s decision to retire from Test rugby with England has since been followed by Owen Farrell, who took back the England captaincy from Lawes at the World Cup, revealing that he won’t be available for the upcoming Six Nations due to his need to mentally refresh.

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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