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Dallaglio breaks his silence on Wasps' losing Championship licence

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Lawrence Dallaglio has broken his silence on last Thursday’s revelation that Wasps had their licence to take part in next season’s Championship revoked by the RFU. The expectation was that the busted Gallagher Premiership club would resurface in the second tier in 2023/24, but that idea was quashed by last week’s development.

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New owners HALO22 Limited failed to meet an RFU deadline for providing proof that the club could still operate at a professional level and they were told they must instead restart at the bottom of the grassroots playing pyramid.

The decision left Dallaglio infuriated and he has now addressed the matter in depth for the first time on his latest Evening Standard Rugby Podcast. “When you get statements released and the RFU saying, ‘We have been doing everything to help Wasps’, they have been doing very little to help Wasps actually,” he alleged.

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“When you say, ‘We have done everything to help Wasps and help Worcester’, I’m not sure who has written that because it’s just pulled out of thin air. Actually, the phone has been very quiet for quite some time and the reality is that rugby is a busted flush as it has been financially for quite some time.

“People obviously want only want 10 teams in the league because if they wanted something different, they would create something different. That is the reality. If you want to let brands like Wasps and Worcester go… good luck to you.

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“Wasps couldn’t go to investors to get money to come into the club if they don’t know what the structure is for the Championship and they don’t know what the structure is for the Premiership and the RFU and PRL couldn’t give them that. If your funding for the Premiership is £4.5million/£5m per club and your funding for the Championship is only £50,000, that is quite a difficult thing to bridge.”

Dallaglio, who won five Premiership titles and two Heineken Cups with Wasps, added: “Things will move on. At the moment, Wasps are back in the lowest league and if we have to play and get promoted 10 years on the trot, we will do that because it is a strong group of people. There are a lot of very influential people within Wasps and they will come back. I’d watch this space, it’s not quite all over just yet.”

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As for a healthier plan for the game in general, Dallaglio suggested: “What the RFU and PRL need to do is come out with the structure of English rugby moving forward. What is the Premiership? Do you want to ring-fence it for three to five years for 10 clubs? Is that competitive? Is it anti-competitive? Is it allowed?

“Even if you’re going to allow clubs to be in the Championship, do any clubs actually want to come up from the Championship? Are you going to take Wasps P-shares and are you going to spread them out amongst the rest of the Premiership and share them amongst the group or are you going to ring-fence them and allow the opportunity for clubs to come up?

“Otherwise, it just becomes what you call a cartel, doesn’t it? And you know there’s no way in and no way out.”

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GrahamVF 26 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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