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'Damaged the jersey': Justin Marshall on the All Blacks' 2022

Rieko Ioane takes the ball into contact for the All Blacks. Photo by Dan Mullan/Getty Images

Former All Blacks captain Justin Marshall has been pulling no punches in his criticism of the New Zealand side’s 2022 international season. In his most recent interview, the 81-cap international shared his view that even a successful 2023 World Cup campaign would not excuse the historic losses incurred throughout 2022.

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The eight wins that the All Blacks racked up this year inspired little optimism for Marshall, as the nature of the team’s four losses and single draw exposed the team as a dwindling threat to the emerging powerhouses of Ireland and France.

Those four losses will be remembered fondly in Ireland and Argentina, as the two nations claimed maiden victories on New Zealand soil. Ireland backed up their victory with another to clinch the Steinlager Series, their first series win in All Black territory.

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For a team with one of the highest win rates in sporting history, winning just two of their first six games – after dropping their final two Tests the season prior – had much of the loyal Kiwi fanbase in panic mode. While an unbeaten run to end the year may have appeased some of that local audience, Marshall was adamant the legacy and status of the All Blacks jersey had suffered throughout the campaign.

“I certainly feel that that record this year is not adequate,” Marshall said on The Platform. “It’s not up to All Black standard.

“Of course creating history in a negative aspect never sits comfortably. Losing to Ireland for the first time on our own shores in a Test series and a Test match, losing to Argentina for the first time on our own shores, has damaged the jersey.

“If anybody wants to sit down in an argument with me about that, then good luck to them because I know what it’s like to carry the legacy of All Blacks gone in the past and these guys have let the jersey down because they’ve created history in the wrong way.”

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While acknowledging the difficulty of the decision that was made, Marshall expressed disapproval of New Zealand Rugby’s conservatism in their coaching selection and then retention of Ian Foster amidst the criticism and poor results.

Reflecting on the 2019 Rugby World Cup, the former halfback said he “certainly saw the writing on the wall” in regard to the coaching setup needing a refresh but pointed to the players’ outpouring of support for Foster following the South Africa Tests as evidence of the support for foster also being significant.

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Marshall was asked to grade the season on a scale from one to ten, as his partner in commentary, Grant Nisbett, had done a few days earlier. Nisbett had awarded the team a 6.5.

“The disappointment with the draw against England,” Marshall continued. “Dropping a Test match quite comfortably to South Africa in South Africa… One of the worst years they’ve had in the last decade if you ask me and a lot of inconsistency in there as well, they struggled against Japan, they struggled against Scotland for long periods. Yes, they got the wins but if you look at the micro elements of it, it wasn’t a cakewalk by any means.

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“So at most I’m going to give them a six. They had some success, they still did find a way to win some of those Test matches but it didn’t fill me with great enthusiasm and massive confidence that we are going to be going to the Rugby World Cup in great form and a real threat to those teams that are at the top of the pedestal at World Rugby at the moment.

“For anybody feeling super confident about the side going into next year saying ‘we are finally through that little lull, we’re actually firing on all cylinders now, we’re assured of our starting XV’ – are we? I don’t think so.

“So that’s the reason and that’s a generous six, I’m just saying that because I don’t want to be too negative.”

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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