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David Havili is a good player who could still add a bit to the All Blacks

David Havili of the Crusaders looks on during the round 12 Super Rugby Pacific match between Highlanders and Crusaders at Forsyth Barr Stadium, on May 11, 2024, in Dunedin, New Zealand. (Photo by Joe Allison/Getty Images)

I see that by the “unanimous’’ agreement of the Crusaders’ brains trust, that David Havili is the franchise’s new captain.

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And that’s exactly why I rarely care about who’s captain of any team.

These appointments are largely ceremonial and every decision is made by committee.

Now, of course, you can have lame duck captains or guys who are at least perceived to be lame ducks. They’re often those whose place in a side wouldn’t otherwise be assured.

The old campaigner who’s a shadow of their former selves or the company man who’s seen as the teacher’s pet.

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In a Crusaders context Sam Whitelock was the leader of that team for years. Whether it was Kieran Read as captain, Whitelock himself or Scott Barrett, the guy whose presence, opinion and performances mattered most was Whitelock.

I like Havili. I think he’s a good player, who could still add a bit to the All Blacks.

It’s a misnomer to describe the All Blacks’ midfield as a combination or partnership. Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane are ships in the night, meaning there’s no hope of any creativity coming from that part of the paddock.

They both carry hard when they’re required to, but they’re basically working on an individual basis. They’re certainly not facilitators for those outside them.

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Havili could be, but I doubt he’ll ever get another serious crack at a playmaking role with the All Blacks.

That’s an aside. What’s of more interest to me is the cult of the captain.

Scott Barrett, the All Blacks captain, remains an integral member of the Crusaders squad, while Codie Taylor was said to be another candidate to lead the side.

You can assume a variety of others, from Tom Christie and Ethan Blackadder, to Will Jordan and Mitchell Drummond will also be part of every decision-making process on or off the field.

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So why do we care who’s captain? This isn’t cricket, for instance, where the skipper still appears to be the dominant party.

This is rugby with guys in fluorescent bibs relaying instructions from the coaching box every other minute.

Other than media and corporate stuff, where is it that a rugby captain actually leads? Is it deciding whether to kick off or which end they want to start at? What?

According to Crusaders coach Rob Penney, the team’s leaders all believed Havili was the right man for the job. It’s almost as if Penney and Havili were peripheral figures in the process.

For better or worse, rugby teams are run by consensus, which is why the identity of the designated captain really isn’t that important.

I wish Havili well and recognise that it must be an honour to be the full-time captain of such a storied franchise.

But to linger on my point that we overplay the significance of captaincy, Havili’s success won’t be measured in how he conducts himself or even how he plays. It’ll come down to whether the Crusaders can win the Super Rugby Pacific title or not.

That’s because rugby is about the collective competence of the group, not the identity of the bloke who runs out first.

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JW 6 hours ago
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He wasn't, he was only there a couple of years. Don't get me wrong, he's a player of promise, but without ever having a season at 10 at that level, one could hardly ever think he would be in line to take over.


But if you really want to look at your question deeper, we get to that much fabled "production line" of the Crusaders. I predict you'll know what I mean when I say, Waikato, Waikato, Queensland.


I don't know everything about him (or his area I mean) but sure, it wouldnt have just been Razor that invested in him, and that's not to say he's the only 10 to have come out of that academy in the last half dozen years/decade since Mo'unga, but he is probably the best. So it's a matter of there having been no one else why it was so easy for people to picture him being razors heir apparent (no doubt he holds him in more high regard than the blurb/reference of his recently published though). And in general there is very much a no paching policy at that level which you may not appreciate .


For England? Really? That's interesting. I had just assumed he was viewed as club man and that national aspect was just used to entice him over. I mean he could stil be used by Scotland given I wouldn't expect them to have a whole lot of depth even thoe fh's one of their strongest positions at the moment. But certainly not England.


Personally I still think that far more likely was the reason. He would/could have done the same for Crusaders and NZ, just without half as much in his pocket. And as an individual I certainly don't think he'd have chosen England over the All Blacks (as a tru blue kiwi i mean), and he of all people should know where he sits. He said he wants to play internationally, so I take that at face value, he didn't think that could be for NZ, and he might have underestimated (or been mislead by McCall) England (and Scotland really), or have already chosen Scotland at the time, as seems the case from talk of his addition.


Again though, he's a player who I'd happily rate outside the trifecta of Barrett/McKenzie/Mo'unga in basic ability , even on par with foreign players like Plummer, Sopoaga, Ioane, and ahead of a bunch in his era like Falcon, Trask, Reihana. I've done the same thing >.< excluding Perofeta from the 10 debate. Hes probably below him but I think pero is a 15 now.

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