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Ex-New Zealand and Wales chief: 'Do fans want to watch that rubbish?'

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The ex-CEO of the both New Zealand and Wales rugby unions has called on the major northern hemisphere nations to start sharing Test match income to help the game avoid a world-wide financial meltdown.

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One of the chief architects of SANZAR before Argentina joined New Zealand, Australia and South Africa, David Moffett established Welsh regional rugby, dealt with massive WRU debts, fought to keep the Six Nations on free-to-air TV and took decisions that attracted plenty of flak from fans and fellow officials during his career.

With rugby now facing unprecedented financial pressures due to the coronavirus pandemic, unions are struggling to remain solvent and it has put the spotlight on the thorny subject of revenue sharing. With a home England international generating up to £12million a game for the Rugby Football Union, it is natural that teams like New Zealand want to a significant slice of the action while the Pacific Islands nations would be happy with just 10 per cent.

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However, England matches at Twickenham deliver 85 per cent of the RFU’s finances and the idea of spreading the wealth to aid the southern hemisphere nations is an anathema to many, particularly with the RFU facing eye0-watering losses this year. 

It cost hundreds of millions of pounds to create a major stadia like Twickenham and the RFU question why, for example, New Zealand don’t have a similarly large arena with state of the art hospitality facilities. To increase revenue the All Blacks have to become a travelling attraction, getting a share of the gate wherever they appear. World Cup winners South Africa are in a similar position.

Before any rugby restart happens, Moffett expects the major southern hemisphere unions to play hardball over the issue, telling RugbyPass that the looming presence of private equity company CVC – which is buying a share of European rugby – should act as a warning. 

He explained: “Because of this virus the southern hemisphere unions are bleeding to death and how are they going to replenish their coffers if it’s not through some kind of agreement with the wealthy unions? I can absolutely see that happening and the only role for World Rugby in this is as a broker because they cannot dictate to an individual union what happens to their gate money.

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“The southern hemisphere nations are going to be agitating more and more for a share of the gates when they play in the north and that will be resisted. The equalisation of income has to be on the table and the major southern hemisphere countries may have to play hardball to get a change. 

“For the Pacific Islands nations, it’s a double whammy because they get nothing for playing the top northern hemisphere teams who don’t tour in the Islands. That has to be looked at. It won’t be easy but the current crisis can be a catalyst for change involving the big twelve unions because if we get another of these viruses next year the game will just disappear.

“The sport has to come up with solutions rather than let outside organisations come in and take control by way of ownership. There will be posturing and veiled threats but the game has to work out how rugby is going to survive. CVC are circling around the top of the sport and will they be good for rugby in the long term? I don’t think so. When I was on the Six Nations I fought to keep the tournament on free-to-air because there are some things you don’t stuff around with – and one of them is the best competition in the world. 

“I’m not sure that CVC understand what the fans want. The English Premiership and the French Top 14 knock Super Rugby for six because they are tribal, authentic and have promotion and relegation, and England would be crazy to ever do away with that.

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“Super Rugby has been a disaster. We started with twelve teams but chased quantity not quality and it’s a lop-sided competition. Crowds and viewership are down and what sport transports its players around the southern hemisphere every year – it’s crazy. Japan is attracting more players because it’s not as competitive has fewer matches and they can earn a lot of money.”

Moffett also delivered a withering verdict on World Rugby just days after Bill Beaumont was given another four years as chairman of the sport’s governing body. The administrator, who has also held the roles of CEO with Australia’s NRL and Sport England, remains passionate about the sport and is demanding clarity of purpose from the governing body. 

“The solution for the international game is to get World Rugby to tell us what their purpose is and to be honest about it” he added. “What do they mean by a global season? It’s a global season for the twelve best teams in the world and it’s not about anything else. 

“It’s all about the money and World Rugby have taken their eye off the ball when it comes to the laws of the game and the mode of play. Everything we hear about is centred on the professional game, but where are those players going to come from? They don’t just knock on your door. They come from a school or a club and there needs to be a balance struck, but I don’t see that happening.

“The laws are absolutely atrocious because they have fiddled around with them to encompass the way some coaches want to play the game. The game used to be played by players on their feet and now we have guys wrestling on the ground and endless time spent on resetting scrums. Do fans want to watch that rubbish?

“Unfortunately, what we have got is a massive disconnect between the professional game and the community game and I didn’t care who got the job of chairman of World Rugby because I don’t have faith that either of them actually understands what the role and purpose of World Rugby is.

“They like the sexy end where all the money is and they have forgotten about the 99 per cent of people playing the game because of the pursuit of money. They will say they are concerned about the grassroots of the game but none of their actions proves that is true. 

“The majority of fans I speak to would prefer longer tours and watch a three-Test series between New Zealand and England and the success of the British and Irish Lions tours prove this. I firmly believe that the professional game should be primarily aimed at promoting the amateur game and provide financial support because they are not separate entities. We are losing this.”

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


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The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

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Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

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He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

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Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


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