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'Does Eddie support England or Australia in the Ashes... who actually knows?'

England rugby coach Eddie Jones likes his cricket (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Elliot Daly believes having England’s cricketers currently playing Australia in the Ashes is a positive distraction as Eddie Jones’ rugby squad continues preparations for the Rugby World Cup in Japan. 

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The five-match series, which opened last Thursday at Edgbaston, is a hot topic of conversation among the rugby players, although Daly is not quite sure which country their Australian coach Jones is supporting. 

“Does he support England or Australia? Who actually knows? To be fair to Eddie he likes any sporting event. He likes the challenge of it. We will be discussing batting orders maybe and opening combinations.

“I won’t be in a room watching it with Eddie but I’m sure we will discuss it over a coffee. He loves his cricket and always wants to know what is going on, so I’m sure I will be informed and keep updating him with the latest score.

“I spoke with Jamie George about it the other morning. We were trying to choose our team. The lads love a bit of cricket and especially the Ashes and World Cup. It adds to our talk a lot.”

England’s recent World Cup success demonstrated to Daly and co what is achievable if they stick to their rugby guns in Japan. “It was a great day,” he said, recalling how the rugby squad watched the cricket final at their team base in Bristol some weeks ago.

“We delayed the meeting by probably 45 minutes because of the Super Over and how close the game was. It was an unbelievable finish and unbelievable for them to win the World Cup in the same year that we are trying to win the World Cup.”

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It slipped Daly’s mind, though, to rub the result into John Mitchell, the England defence coach who has strong New Zealand cricket connections. 

“That’s a good question, I don’t actually know (how he took the result). I’m sure he took it very well but I think his son plays for New Zealand (Twenty20), doesn’t he? I might actually get a bit stuck into him about that.”  

Daly dabbled with the bat growing up, playing with Jason Roy, England’s Ashes opener, at school and at Surrey age-grade. However, now fully ensconced in a successful rugby career, there has never been a moment when he wished he stuck with cricket instead. 

“No, never… although the lifestyle of a cricketer does look quite good. But moving around a lot of the time can be annoying and not being with your family for probably two, three, four, five months at a time compared to the month we do can be a little tough. No, I’m happy with my choice.”

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JW 56 minutes ago
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I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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