Duane Vermeulen fights off Billy Vunipola challenge to be crowned world's best No. 8

France choked AGAIN... that's on the coach.

These comment lines operate best if it users have above chimp IQ. Go try sand castles.

Seriously pathetic Oz.

Either Oz were on the take to lose with some great odds OR

the had had their big end of tour party the night before OR

they all would rather be fairies at the bottom of the garden.

Seriously it was barely low impact training defence.

SO BAD I would have it investigated for gambling influence. Serious.

I've never seen such powder puff soft effort in defence... at ANY level, including junior level. If players aren't sacked Schmidt ain't serious.

Woeful Wallabies is not a condemning enough term.

The only thing Razor did that has infuriated me was picking George Bell.

That dude better make Kevin Mealamu look like Stephen Moore by the end of Super Rugby next year if he’s going to get picked again.

Argentina won the circuit, was the most regular team, yes.

But they lost the Grand Final in Madrid.

And didn’t get a medal in the Olympics.

3 big things to win in this YEAR.

Argentina = series circuit = 1

France = Grand Final + Gold Medal = 2

If Fidji would’ve just won the gold medal at the Olympics, it wouldn’t have been strange to have their player win it.

My point was of course they don't want to get ahead of themselves and then lose against teams that they should be beating. That's the difficulty with getting better and better.

IDK, I think Jordan has a limited life span in this side unless he can develop more to his game. Like you go on to mention, I think theyres more important things to worry about than the effectiveness of someone's extra strings, or secondary components to their game.

Bash backs are Fosters thing, and to a large part they've made it work. Theyre now one of the best teams in the world.

They boy's trucked it up a bit against Italy in the redzone, and against France, wasn't that effective without the right players probably.

Try and take a look at it this way. Dissapointed Havili and Blackadder were in the side? Havili despite clearly shown that he can't do what the team needs at 12 was kept on for the RWC. Back goes down and he brings in Blackadder who doesn't play. Refuses to drop Christie when he should and look who starts this season. Beauden Barret not playing well enough to keep his 10 jersey but we gotta keep him in the side. Weve only got one 8, we stuff developing another I'll just play Ardie every game.

This years team wasn't burdened overly with injuries but they were in every position Razor might have wanted to try and development, severely limiting options. I'm not defending Razor as there was also plenty of other opportunity to make up for it and he was a little gunshy, but I'm also not going to overly criticise him because he chose cohesion over a black slate.

How long are we going to keep blaming All Black failings on Ian Foster.

I think more and more people are on board with it being time to try alternatives, but then again, how would they have reacted to a loss against Italy? 😉