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Hartley tackles boring England narrative, George Ford at No10

England's George Ford (Photo by David Rogers/Getty Images)

Former England skipper Dylan Hartley has taken issue with accusations that Steve Borthwick’s team is boring but added that a starting half-back partnership versus Ireland consisting of Marcus Smith and Alex Mitchell might be best with a view to the long-term evolution of the side.

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The English saw their best start to the Guinness Six Nations since 2019 go up in flames in their demoralising round three 21-30 loss at Scotland on February 24. That setback reignited last year’s criticisms about how blunt their approach is with Borthwick as their head coach.

Hartley, though, has insisted that England are not as boring as they are made out to be, but he explained why change could be useful at scrum-half and out-half after veterans Danny Care and George Ford respectively started the last day at Scottish Gas Murrayfield.

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“There is intent to what England’s attack is trying to do – we are trying to play,” claimed Hartley in his latest Gambling Zone rugby column.

“If you look at the way they opened against Scotland, a few passes weren’t sticking, but the stats showed you that England had the highest pass count out of any team in the opening two rounds. Scotland had the highest kick count, so the narrative about England being boring is something I disagree with.

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“There are a lot of very intelligent players in the England team. We are trying to unlock the door, pick the right pass and manipulate defences to find holes, but they aren’t quite unlocking it at the moment. The proof isn’t in the pudding at the moment but at some stage, it will click.

“England must have been frustrated with that Scotland performance. There were a lot of individual errors in there and, on another day, they catch balls, the passing is more accurate, and things aren’t as bad.”

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Hartley added that Mitchell and Smith should be the starting No9 and No10 against title-favourites Ireland this weekend at Twickenham. “It’s a tough one. I can’t see Steve Borthwick changing George Ford but, then again, where England are in the tournament I don’t think they will learn anything about themselves with established players on the field.

“I would understand if some more inexperienced guys were selected as the experience will be great for them – but the same old story of professional sport, fans and the RFU demanding results will most probably mean it is an experienced side selected.

“Alex Mitchell will come back in and rightly so. He is the in-form scrum-half. He’s the sort of guy that can spark something – he is an instinctive player. He is the sort of guy that gives it a crack which is really good. What you need outside of that is someone who wants the ball as well.

“I don’t think England are going to lose anything by playing George Ford. I do think there is an opportunity for Steve Borthwick to be bold in his selection for Ireland. The question Borthwick faces is does he stick with his tried and tested or do you start to move on?

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“Marcus Smith has been out, but now he is back, where does he fit into the side? Does Borthwick wait for George Ford to retire and then play Marcus Smith? It would be too late by then. He needs to be bold with his selection decisions.

“It will come down to how England want to play. Do they want to play quite a balanced game – I’m not saying Marcus can’t play balanced – or do they want to throw caution to the wind and give him [Smith] a crack and go for it? England can’t win the tournament, so that is the dilemma Borthwick is facing.

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“My head is telling me that George Ford will play with Alex Mitchell but, in my heart, I would love to see Alex and Marcus paired together, and that is nothing against George.

“Then you have the whole obsession with picking between Manu Tuilagi and Ollie Lawrence. I’ve always loved playing alongside a powerhouse 12 – like an extra back rower who gives you clear punch and direction – but then I don’t think that Fraser Dingwall would have done too badly against Scotland if he kept his place in the team.

“For me, Dingwall is a really intelligent rugby player. He isn’t known for crash bash but is quietly capable due to intelligent running lines. He has got soft, silky hands and makes appropriate passes and a player like that was missing (against Scotland).

“He didn’t do anything wrong in the opening two games of the tournament and then, suddenly, Lawrence is back available, and he comes back into the team. Being honest, I don’t think that really worked.”

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Ed the Duck 260 days ago

Feel slightly sorry for SB in some ways. He is rebuilding his D, his attack and also his squad, all simultaneously and it’s tough to crack, never mind quickly.

Suspect he will look to eliminate the excessive error count from last week, keep things as tight as possible with a conservative game plan and possibly open up if the win is in reach at the close. Just don’t see him doing things in a radically different way. And it almost certainly wouldn’t work if he did. First 20 at murrayfield england were fully on top and he will try to impose this approach for longer.

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Turlough 260 days ago

Marcus Smith was the chosen out half for the tournament. If he is going to be the future out half then he must start against Ireland if fit…he must get this experience. If England are ahead with 20 to go then bring on Ford to try and bring it home

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JW 3 hours ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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