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Eddie Jones explains his new back-row selection for NZ

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Eddie Jones insists England are ready to take on New Zealand’s historical strength after picking two number eights for Saturday’s Twickenham showdown.

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Billy Vunipola and Sam Simmonds, both specialists in the position, have been picked in a back row completed by Tom Curry for the first clash with the All Blacks since a crushing win in the semi-finals of the 2019 World Cup.

Maro Itoje moves back to lock to make room for Simmonds at blindside flanker and the three changes in personnel to the side that thumped Japan 52-13 are completed by the return of wing Jack Nowell and centre Manu Tuilagi.

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It is the make-up of the back row that is most intriguing, however, with Simmonds’ last start at flanker coming in the Premiership five years ago.

However, they were paired together when Vunipola came on for the final quarter of the Brave Blossoms rout that nudged England’s autumn back on track having fallen to Argentina in the series opener.

Jones said: “It’s a bit horses for courses against New Zealand. Traditionally if you look at the history of the game, New Zealand’s strength is their back row.

“Their most talismanic players have always been their back rows. Look at Graham Mourie, Richie McCaw, Kieran Read, Wayne Shelford, Zinzan Brooke. We feel that battle is going to be quite important in the game.

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“Sam gives us a little bit more mobility and a little bit more contest at the breakdown, which again is going to be important.

“Billy’s job is to get us over the gain line. If you can get over the gain line against New Zealand you can present problems for their defence and Billy has the opportunity to do that.”

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The tweaks to the back five reduce the number of line-out jumpers from three to two just a week after Jones insisted that a trio of options at the set-piece is essential.

“Ideally we would have three jumpers, but we just feel we need that contest in the back row for this week,” Jones said at Thursday’s team announcement.

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“Maro’s preferred position is definitely lock, but he can play six. We’re pleased with the way Alex Coles is developing but for this game we feel that’s the best balanced pack.”

Jack van Poortvliet’s selection ahead of Ben Youngs heralds a changing of the guard at scrum-half with the 21-year-old rookie preferred over his Leicester team-mate for the main event of the autumn.

First capped on the summer tour to Australia, he is now first choice in the position in only his sixth Test. Meanwhile, England’s most capped player sits on the bench.

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“We’ve been bringing Jack through. He’s been coming along nicely in this series and he’s ready to start now,” Jones said.

“The last 20 minutes of the game against New Zealand is generally when the game is won or lost and Ben’s experience then will be invaluable for us.”

Owen Farrell will join Youngs and Jason Leonard in the small band of England Test centurions when he runs out at Twickenham and Jones paid tribute to his captain, who made his debut as a 20-year-old a decade ago.

“Whatever team Owen plays in, he makes better. He’s a tough and uncompromising player who plays close to his best nearly every game I’ve seen him play,” Jones said.

“Owen brings people with him like Richie McCaw did for New Zealand.”

New Zealand enter their final match of 2022 on the back of a six-Test winning run, but prior to that they had lost six out of eight games in a barren spell that left head coach Ian Foster fighting for his future.

“I’ve coached against New Zealand since 2000 I think and they have never lack motivation,” Jones said.

“And they particularly don’t lack motivation against England, who we know they probably don’t like a great deal. So I’m sure they’ll be highly motivated.”

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Nick - thanks for another good piece.


It’s remarkable that Matt Williams gets so upset about Bomb Squad tactics. He’s not just making recommendations, but getting all sweaty about bench splits. But it’s not really about bench splits. He just does not like forwards, and their role in the game.


I thought this quote was telling:

What about Kitshoff, what happened to his spine in South Africa? Do we know if that is as a result of the scrummaging they are put through?

Ouch. So we are really on a program of reducing scrummaging to reduce spinal injuries? That’s the mission? And based on the statistically significant dataset of one case, a case in which he openly admits that he does not have the details. Regardless, if his goal is to reduce spinal injuries for prop forwards then arguing about bench splits seems like an odd place to start.


It’s not just spinal injuries that he cares about. The risk of paralysis is an important issue, and he raises this too:

I’m a bit of a lone voice but, because of my club-mate Grant Harper (ex-Western Suburbs prop who was paralysed after a collapsed scrum), I’m not shutting up on it.

Injuries are horrible, and paralysis is truly awful. We should absolutely take it very seriously, and diligently implement whatever safety protocols and education programs we can to minimize these things. But we don’t ban skydiving or hang gliding, or crossing the road. Though Williams is not looking to ban rugby, he does seem to be intent on reducing the role of forwards in the game, based on entirely anecdotal data.


It’s hard to tell what it’s all about. He makes this supposed safety case and says that no-one in his echo chamber disagrees with him:

Every time I go out, old forwards and old props go up to me and they say, ‘you’re right’. I’ve never had anyone, apart from a few South Africans – because it’s good for South Africa – say it’s rubbish.

It’s weird that “old props” are hanging around his front door and lobbying him, or maybe he just doesn’t “go out” much. Could it be that all of the hand-wringing about bench splits and scrummaging injuries is really a proxy for something else? Is it possible his issue is not about safety at all?


Well, that is what it seems. For me the truth is in this comment:

Can Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Australia and Argentina compete against South Africa, New Zealand and France if that’s the way the game goes? The answer to that is no.

So, this is the real issue for him. The Bomb Squad tactic is a really good one, and you have to be really good to play against it. Or you should try to de-power it by banning it, wailing about injuries that it supposedly causes (it doesn’t) and clutching at anecdotal straws to make your case.


The above quote is an insult to the five countries named, and it also suggests that no-one is going to be smart enough to come up with a game plan that neutralizes the bomb squad or turns it to a relative weakness. Williams is just a noisy fan looking to change the laws to favor his team and his personal tastes.


I agree with your conclusions. This Rassie approach is far from being unfair to backs. Not only does it favor fleet-footed and versatile “skills players” in the double-digit positions, but each individual gets more game time in any given match.


Whenever I go out I get exactly zero “old backs” coming up to me and complaining about the Bomb Squad tactic.


Bravo, Rassie.

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