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Eddie Jones weighs in on the biggest debate in English rugby currently

Wallabies head coach Eddie Jones speaks to the media during a Rugby Australia press conference at Coogee Oval in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Former head coach Eddie Jones believes it is the “next step” for England to pick players from abroad, saying it is “just a matter of when” it happens.

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While the current Japan coach feels the RFU have been right in only selecting Gallagher Premiership-based players for England, he recently explained to Jim Hamilton on The Big Jim Show that the natural progression as rugby becomes more professional is to allow players to play anywhere, copying the “most mature professional sport in the world,” football.

The exodus of English players to the Top 14 in recent years has meant that this issue is as pressing as ever. While the Australian had to contend with a handful of players who were excelling in France yet unable to represent England, Steve Borthwick currently has far more players that he cannot select.

Toulouse’s Jack Willis is the headline player who is barred from playing Test rugby, who, at the age of 28, is in the prime of his career. Jones, who gave Willis his first cap in 2020, said that the flanker “would give anything to play for England,” after talking to him last year, and believes he has “exploded” while in France, much in the same way he says Finn Russell did while with Racing 92, which has in turn helped Scotland.

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The 2016 Grand Slam-winning coach used reigning world champions South Africa as the example that England should follow, who scrapped their overseas policy and have reaped the rewards with their best players being paid abroad and their clubs developing younger players.

“I think England rugby has probably been right in not allowing players to play overseas, but I think now as the sport gets more mature professionally, they’ve got to let them got and they’ve got to be able to pick them,” he said.

“A player like Jack Willis, at the end of the day, the only thing you’ve got to be worried about is whether the player is getting better and Jack Willis has definitely got better at Toulouse. If he’s not one of the best back-rowers in the world now, then you and I probably aren’t sitting in this room, it’s AI.

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“He is exceptional. I saw him come up and I might have picked him for his first Test. He was a good player but nowhere near the player he is now. You just look at him, his body shape has changed. It’s tough [in France], and if he doesn’t play well, he doesn’t get picked, so he’s fit.

“His game’s been exposed to a different game. Everything in France is about the ball carrier keeping the ball alive and that’s changed Jack’s game, because he’s much more agile on his feet, he’s a much more dynamic ball carrier because he’s thinking he’s got to offload. His game’s just really exploded.

“The Premiership don’t want to lose their best players, which you can understand, because if they then lose their best players the marketability of the competition goes down. I reckon the next step is let them go and produce better younger players.

“I tell you, [Willis] would give anything to play for England. I caught up with him in November, had a quick chat with him, and he wants to play for England. It will come, it’s just a matter of when it comes.

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“Look at South Africa. South Africa got beaten by Japan in 2015, 2016 changed their Currie Cup, moved out of Super Rugby, go to the URC, told their players to go anywhere in the world they wanted to play. They developed all these young players, their best players are at good clubs and they get better. I reckon for England that’s going to be the next step.”

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JW 33 minutes ago
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Really enjoyed the Breakdown for once last weekend, it was a sensible and interesting debate amongst the shared options (probably helped by Beaver taking over from SJK).


I don’t think Ned does enough justice to the benefits of Kirifi’s low center of gravity in this article, and I’m not just saying that because he’s starting to develop the perfect game for his size. The other aspect in favour of Kirifi is that he’s the one player showing real improvement. All the others, apart from Lakai of course (even Savea despite his best efforts), are going backwards.


That can obviously be put down to ‘form’ within the very small window at the start of the season where main players typical try to build from, but it’s an important factor that we do need to see improvement in contributions from DP, Jacobsen, and Blackadder before they can seriously be considered. So with that sad, the options right now are actually very narrow (as outlined in the recommendations in this article), but of course we should expect at least 2 of those other 3 to be putting their hands up too.


There is no Billy Harmon this year, but his replacement is one other player who has good stats this year, and also a lot of extra promise to come, Veveni Lasaqa. He’s having to overtake a couple of last years other stars, Withy and Renton, in terms of the Highlanders mix, to get a starting spot and some minutes under his belt to really show what he’s got, but I think theres much more to see yet. There are of course a bunch of other names worth mentioning, Withy himself not the least amongst them for the future, but Lasaqa is one that I can see taking the comp by storm in the sort of fashion that Sititi did.


But along the lines of the topic used, I really see Sititi as being a 7 as well. With Savea and Lasaka he has that perfect mix of body strength, still a low center of gravity, but also enough muscle to foot it with sides that have 1.96/110kg flanks. While he has talent to burn, one would also not be wrong to expect a dip in performance, even without that, for the purpose of development and long term planning, I’d expected Wallace to fit the impact role more than the 80min man for the All Blacks this year, and the most likely person I can see him replacing on the regular, is Ardie Savea. So that would likely mean time at 7 or 8.


While it’s not necessarily the thing I’d do, that could work well with Savea transitioning to the impact role (both because hes likely to need less minutes as he gets older, and because theres hopefully good depth overtaking him), and Wallace to a starting position again. Of course the troublesome position, since Read started to lose form before RWC 19’, is that number 8 spot which Ardie had been asked to fill, and now which he is only really relieved from because of Sititi’s immergence. Wallace to me only answers so many of those questions by being used at 8 because of how exceptionally he played on both sides of the ball last year. So what if there is a drop, or he is just given a different plan than being overplayed by Razor (like he was last year to his detriment)? Well from what I’ve seen this year, Hoskins Sotutu is showing he’s ready to take the jersey back again and make it his. I’m really excited by his impact and intensity in his allround game he’s had a chance to show this year, and I’m confident it’s going to continue/show, even to the point the Blues win this weekend.


So what does that mean? I can see the best balanced backrow as being Ardie at 7, Sotutu at 8, and Barret at 6, with Sititi on the bench. As a 7 back up I’d currently go with Kirifi, but expect DP, as the starter and, I’d imagine, the number 1 7 before he got injured last year and never came back, to make himself the preferred next goto 7 this year after Ardie (and maybe actually the best specialist 7, but it just not being enough to give him the primary role).

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