8 England players make first Gallagher Premiership XV of the season

You don't hear the Irish proclaiming their brilliance for being nr 1 in the world after not even playing a game this past weekend, because they know they good, just like SA don't care about being Nr 2 for a week because we lost with what definitely wasn't our strongest team, away from home against a really good Argentina (who beat the strongest All Black team in Nzl I might add)

There is no shame in that.

SA has a lot of respect for Ireland cause they are a very very good team.

But our respect for Nzl pundits are seriously taking a nose dive. Between the bitching and moaning of a certain "sir" won't mention names, and articles (or should I rather say slander based click bait) like the one vomited above, how do you expect us to respect what you are saying.

Let's point out some facts here:

1) With the introduction of a more active TMO, Nzl is no longer getting away with underhanded cheating they used to, and therefore gets more penalties and cards against them than ever before, cause they are no-longer playing on the air of invincibility of yesteryear, they actually have to now perform on merit, something they can not do, and which is clear in the fact that the All Black's are losing more than ever, their total lack in ability to score points under pressure.

Not being used to this the New Zealand pundits has to revert to badmouthing other teams, and finding mistakes in others.

Which is classic jealous behavior.

I also think it bothers them so much more to see SA at Nr 1 on the rankings than it actually bothers us.

South Africa has won half the world cups we have ever played in, while Nzl only 30% of theirs.

And the World nr 1 team? Oh yes, still trying to unlock the secret to winning a quarter final.

Mr BS, the saying goes Jealousy makes you nasty.

In the meanwhile back in SA I'm having a braai tonight, and I have no quarrel about who is world nr 1 or world nr 2, we both better than the All Black's and that's all that matters

You don't need to be the best in the world to win a RWC. You just need a brand of 10 man rugby that works for you. It's relative to their opposition.

They haven't been able to unlock Ireland consistently and bombed a 17-0 advantage against Argentina. That's just recently, too. If they do the business at the weekend it's the first time they've won their domestic competition in more than half a decade. Hardly world beaters.