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Ellis Genge: Eddie Jones and ethnic England players suffered racist abuse on 2018 tour to South Africa

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Ellis Genge has claimed that Eddie Jones and some ethnic England players – including himself – were subjected to racial abuse during their 2018 trip to South Africa. Jones’ side played a three-Test series two years ago in Johannesburg, Bloemfontein and Cape Town and while the Leicester prop didn’t play in those matches, he revealed there was an unsavoury moment after one of the games. 

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Speaking on 5 Live Breakfast on Tuesday, Genge explained that racism is something he tries to shield himself from but despite this cautious approach, there are still occasions when he is left vulnerable to verbal abuse.

“I don’t think BBC 5 Live needs those type of profanities on their radio at five-to-eight in the morning so I won’t go into too much stuff but it was quite tough in terms of a quite heavily white-dominated area growing up,” he said, initially recalling what it was like being reared in Bristol.

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“I still get that [racist abuse] now. You try and segregate yourself from all those people who are sort of naive or ignorant enough to be racist, you try and stay away from it as much as you can, but you can’t shield yourself from everyone’s thoughts. 

“I’m more referring when you go out in town after games and stuff. When we went on the South African tour in 2018 I remember after a game we were walking through one of the tunnels and they started hurling racist abuse at myself and a few of the other ethnic boys and Eddie himself. 

“It is still very rife, especially in sport. Look, you can’t control that yourself, you just sort of need to put the message out there. Like Raheem Sterling said, if you have got a platform you can use it. It’s something that needs to be stamped out.”

Genge, who has spoken to RugbyPass before about the need for rugby to expand its horizons and shake off its reputation as a posh white man’s sport, added that he would love to see more black coaches and players involved in rugby.

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“Yeah, I’d like to see that. The issue in rugby is it has been a white man’s game for a number of years. There’s not really many black coaches or ethnic coaches, especially here in England.

“The only one I am aware of – and I actually worked under him – was Paul Hull at Bristol who played for Bristol himself. But other than that it’s dominated by white males, which is obviously not a problem but that is just the foundation the game was built on.

“I would love to see black coaches thriving in this game. Me and Maro (Itoje) have spoken about it before. But there is just not hunger out there for it at the moment. Football pays a lot better so all the kids I know who are young in poverty, they all want to be footballers because they are icons.

“That is the way they are presented commercially, all the footballers are icons. You want to be Raheem Sterling. Growing up I wanted to be a footballer because that is the way they are presented. 

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“I don’t think people are commercialised, especially the black and African boys in rugby or women to be icons, we are not presented like that. I can understand why the youth and the poverty today don’t want to be rugby players because it is not the way we are presented, we’re sort of put on this posh pedestal and it’s slowly breaking the mould.”

Genge made headlines recently due to the formation of a breakaway players’ union, the Rugby Players Epoch (RPE), following the decision by Gallagher Premiership clubs to implement a 25 per cent pay cut.

Amid the revelations that the clubs have now voted to reduce the tournament salary cap and halve the number of marquee players whose salaries can sit outside the cap, Genge added; “Listen, I don’t want to get myself in trouble which I’m quite good at, to be honest. I’ll try and leave that as brief as I can. 

“Obviously no one wants a pay cut and in light of everything that has happened I understand there needs to be cuts made, but if you look at the books and the money that rugby has made, especially off the back of the players with the product, I don’t think these cuts, 25 per cent across the board for everyone, are necessary. That’s my opinion. 

“I believe these are still in negotiation,” he continued amid claims these temporary cuts will now be made permanent. “I don’t want to weaken all the boys by sitting here and bagging the PRL for negotiating because I’m sure they will probably spite us for that.

“But rugby has grown so much. I think it is something like since 2009 the fanbase has gone up by a ridiculous amount, millions and millions. You just had the World Cup in Japan, which was great for everyone and England got to the final for the first time since I don’t know when.”

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GrahamVF 36 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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