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Emerging Ireland accused of gamesmanship after 3-nil tour of SA

Brian Deeny of Emerging Ireland during the Toyota Challenge match between Airlink Pumas and Emerging Ireland at Toyota Stadium on October 05, 2022 in Bloemfontein, South Africa. (Photo by Johan Pretorius/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

The Emerging Ireland team will celebrate an unbeaten three-match tour of South Africa. However, their hosts are fuming over the obvious and blatant gamesmanship employed during the Challenge Series they competed in.

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The Irish visitors edged the Cheetahs 21-14 in a scrappy and dull game in Bloemfontein this past Sunday.

However, they have not won any new supporters in the Republic.

Cheetahs coach Hawies Fourie said the most frustrating aspect of the loss was the manner in which the game was slowed down – an well-documented Irish tactic that also caused the exasperation of South African teams on the Highveld in the United Rugby Championship.

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It is claimed the first half between the Cheetahs and the Irish lasted 56 minutes and close to two hours for the entire match.

The visitors were booed in Bloemfontein for their constant delaying tactics that saw all three of their games taking just about two hours to complete.

“We can’t continue playing games like this, allowing teams and players to slow the game down,” Fourie said.

“Every time the referee blew his whistle, two medics were running onto the field looking for someone [to treat].

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“They [World Rugby] implement [regulations for] water breaks [to supposedly speed up the game], but all things like this.

“It is just not making sense. The problem is that the referee can’t say you are not injured.

“If you look as though you are injured, he must allow the medical staff to look at you.

“However, it was clear as daylight for anyone what they tried to achieve.”

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Fourie said he watched a game in the series earlier in the week – between the same Irish team and the Pumas – and it was a big bore.

“I can imagine how it must be for young children. They don’t come to the game to see stoppages and water breaks.

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“We want to entertain,” the Cheetahs coach said, adding: “That is the business we are in.

“Obviously we [the Cheetahs] have to win and play better rugby.

“However, there are a lot of issues around the game that has to be revisited.”

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sidney 803 days ago

Play on, with the exception of the scrum, if you’ve taken a knock go to the sideline for treatment or wait until a natural break in play then get the player off the park & treat him, if an injury is that bad a bit of manipulation by 3 medics isn’t gonna make a difference assess the injury off the park & either send him back on or sub him, as they did in days gone bye you can still have a line out without all the forwards

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Ruby 803 days ago

Ireland has overtaken South Africa with that stuff but the irony is palpable.

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Richie 803 days ago

Ireland were up against bigger and stronger men so it is no surprise that when they put their bodies on the line they were getting injured. The SA commentary was an absolute joke for the most part. It’s no wonder we keep hearing constant whinging and blatant bias from their supporters. It is bred into them.

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Andrew 803 days ago

Saffas complaining about slowing a game down? Words fail me....

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mikejjules 803 days ago

The proverbial pot and kettle...

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Jackson 804 days ago

When I was referring back in 1990s we "played on" unless injuries were really bad. This was when player needed to be helped from the field. That kept the game moving nicely. Far to many "football" injuries (so called injuries) have crept into Union these days.

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Peter 804 days ago

Players feigning injuries is a blight on the game.

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sebastiaan 804 days ago

wow i am a cheetah supporter no matter what , but this sunday i realized the cheetahs does not belong in a europian championship if this type of grade 3 schoolboy rugby is what Hawies fourie coach his troops . no offence Hawies but really stop whinning please . the cheetahs is playing dull backline rugby . They were outplayed in every aspect of the game by a young hungry irish side that wants to play in national colors. Cheetah players please live the dream of becoming a springbok and not go onto the pitch to earn your monthly salary . work on your pride to becoming the best

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kevin 804 days ago

Every time a South African re loose be it a club or the international side loose it’s met by a chorus of whinging from SA fans and coaches. I mean in this instance it’s not like an SA side tried to break up play and slow down the clock.

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Brian 804 days ago

What a whingy whining bunch

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JW 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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