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England are ready to record historic win on New Zealand soil - Andy Goode

Marcus Smith and the All Blacks in 2022 (Getty Images)

There was never going to be a massive turnover in the England squad and there’ll be even fewer alterations to the starting XV but I firmly believe this group can be the first to win a Test on New Zealand soil since 2003.

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England have only ever won two Tests away against the All Blacks, the other victory coming all the way back in 1973, so it’d be a major achievement for Steve Borthwick but I think this New Zealand side are there for the taking.

There will obviously be a feelgood factor with Scott Robertson coming in as head coach but that also comes with a period of adjustment and, while there are some very good players in the mix, it isn’t a team that strikes huge fear into the opposition any more.

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They aren’t going to be losing any sleep about England either, don’t get me wrong, but the last two games of this year’s Six Nations were encouraging in terms of developing a style of play that can entertain as well as prove effective.

The one main change to England’s starting line-up will of course come at fly half with George Ford, who started all five games in the Six Nations, out with an achilles injury and Marcus Smith has to be given the keys to drive England forward.

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Fin Smith has had an outstanding season steering Northampton to the Premiership title but the Harlequins man was always supposed to be the starter ahead of the 2024 Six Nations until injury struck him down.

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Fin has only just turned 22, three years younger than Marcus, and it’ll be a phenomenal tour for him to learn on and he’ll get the opportunity to influence games from the bench but it’s time for the more experienced of the two to shine.

It’s amazing to think that Marcus Smith has started just three Tests in the England number 10 jersey in the past couple of years since the 2022 autumn internationals and I think he’s ready to make up for lost time and prove he’s international class.

I think that’ll be the only change to the starting backline from the Six Nations with the rest picking themselves and in the forwards we’ll see Joe Marler and Chandler Cunningham-South coming in for the injured Ellis Genge and Ollie Chessum.

Cunningham-South is only 21 years of age but has been a revelation this season, has experience of playing in New Zealand as a youngster and the opposition’s style and the conditions over there should suit him down to the ground.

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The final 36-man squad did more or less pick itself with no real glaring omissions but Ted Hill has to be the unluckiest to miss out after his form for Bath of late. He’s been sensational and only misses out because there are a lot of other back rowers in a similar mould to him who are more established.

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Bath’s Ted Hill looks on during the Gallagher Premiership final (Photo by Patrick Khachfe/Getty Images)

The likes of Ben Earl, Sam Underhill and Ben Curry were always going to go, Borthwick likes a heavy number six and Hill did miss quite a chunk of the season before the run-in. I am surprised that Tom Curry hasn’t been given the summer off after his serious hip injury though and that could have opened the door for Hill.

In terms of the game plan, England are going to have to take it to the All Blacks up front, as they did to teams during the World Cup, because that is where this opposition are likely to be weakest but they need to show the ambition we saw against Ireland and France in March.

It’s always tough to strike the right balance and England got results at the World Cup with a limited game plan but they know they can’t go back to that and that isn’t going to get you a result in Dunedin or Auckland.

They have the physicality from the likes of Earl, Underhill, Curry, George Martin and co but Ollie Lawrence, Henry Slade, Tommy Freeman, Immanuel Feyi-Waboso and George Furbank in the backs have the perfect blend of explosiveness and creativity if Smith and Alex Mitchell are given licence to unleash them.

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Manny Feyi-Waboso has emerged as one of the most exciting talents in years on the wing for England (Photo by Shaun Botterill/Getty Images)

The All Blacks still have superstars like Ardie Savea, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie and co but they are also now missing names such as Aaron Smith, Sam Whitelock, Will Jordan, Sam Cane and Richie Mo’unga for various reasons.

It’d be a massive call to suggest that England are going to win the two-Test series but I honestly think this group is primed and ready to take advantage of the start of an All Blacks rebuild and become just the third English side to beat them on their own patch.

My England XV to face New Zealand in Dunedin

15 George Furbank

14 Immanuel Feyi-Waboso

13 Henry Slade

12 Ollie Lawrence

11 Tommy Freeman

10 Marcus Smith

9 Alex Mitchell

1 Joe Marler

2 Jamie George (c)

3 Dan Cole

4 Maro Itoje

5 George Martin

6 Chandler Cunningham-South

7 Sam Underhill

8 Ben Earl

 

 

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ColinK 189 days ago

Well the ABs are starting a new era but it will still be a very strong team. We shall see if England can stand the heat, I suspect we will be a little vulnerable mainly due to combinations forming for the first time in the year, but it won’t be through lack of player quality. If the ABs can click England will find it tough. The NZ teams in Super Rugby this year have been playing a very physical and skillful game that will translate very well to test level and that has not always been true of Super Rugby. There is also a large bevy of new and very dynamic talent. Incredible young guys actually Wallace Sititi, Peter Lakai, Sam Darry a few examples there are quite a few others. Also Samipeni Finau has the potential to be a Kaino. He’s a beast of a player. Ardie may even slot in at 7 this year to allow some of the lose forward talent at 8 to get some runs on the board. Overall England will need to be wary, but we kiwis know how tough they can be too.

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SadersMan 191 days ago

poms leading with the lip weeks before kickoff what else is new

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Ed the Duck 191 days ago

Yeah, I thought it was a little bold too! That said, this series could go either way looking at the AB departures, lack of locks, no established 6, best fh in Japan and a new coaching team. Looking forward to a good contest.

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Jen 191 days ago

‘I think this NZ side is there for the taking’

Which NZ side? The ABs squad hasn’t been named yet.

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Craig 191 days ago

Hey guys UK, we here in NZ are looking forward to you coming here supporting and playing some good hard rugby.

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john 191 days ago

Agree with Andy Goode selection the one I disagree with is Marler starting think he be better as replacement to have his experience will be invaluable to finish match off

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Jmann 190 days ago

the only time I’ve ever seen Marler play against NZ he’s had his arse handed to him.

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Matt Perry 192 days ago

It would be really on brand for Borthwick's England to eke out a mediocre win over Japan, get absolutely annihilated in the first test, and then become the first team in 30 years to beat NZ at Eden Park.

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fl 192 days ago

this would be extremely on brand - however this is the first time that we are expecting to see any continuity between one campaign and the next, since Borthwick took over, as every other run of matches he has overseen has involved pretty much a complete overhaul of tactics and selection.


with that in mind I think there’s reason to be hopeful that England have finally turned a corner - whether that will lead to a win or not remains to be seen.

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Jan 192 days ago

Ah yes, Andy Goode. The man who knows what the Ireland players said to Etzebeth after their RWC test.

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Nickers 192 days ago

I would put money on this actually.

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Ed the Duck 192 days ago

Think you’ll find that was his oppo, Jim ‘the gob’ Hamilton…!

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fl 192 days ago

Broadly agree with Goode’s suggested started XV, except:


1) Fin should start ahead of Marcus. He offers far more tactical flexibility.

2) Ethan Roots should start ahead of Cunningham-South. CCS struggles to play 80 minutes, so for the time being is better used for impact off the bench.

3) I’d start Ewels ahead of Itoje. There’s no need for Itoje to go over the 2400 minute limit when Ewels has had such a good season.

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BigMaul 191 days ago

Fin isn’t as good as Marcus in any aspect of the game right now. Though he’s a great talent, Marcus should start.

Roots just isn’t up to this standard. Shouldn’t even be in the squad - Ted Hill would have been a better choice.

Ewels has 30 caps and I can’t think of a single decent performance. He should be behind Coles in the pecking order.

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Toaster 191 days ago

As a kiwi I would start Marcus

It’s a test match and although we are there for the taking as Goode says we will still be good I think at home


For the same reason I don’t think Razor will make too many bold selections

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Ed the Duck 192 days ago

No chance fin starts against the ABs ahead of Marcus, none whatsoever. How to say you know nothing about England without using those words…

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fl 192 days ago

“the Harlequins man was always supposed to be the starter ahead of the 2024 Six Nations until injury struck him down.”


this is such a terrible argument for picking Marcus Smith.

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Ed the Duck 192 days ago

So the decision to put MS in the saddle that was made based on a detailed and extended review of form, ability and gameplan doesn’t count any more…???

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Tom 5 hours ago
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It's incredible to see the boys playing like this. Back to the form that saw them finish on top of the regular season and beat Toulon to win the challenge cup. Ibitoye and Ravouvou doing a cracking Piutau/Radradra impression.


It's abundantly clear that Borthwick and Wigglesworth need to transform the England attack and incorporate some of the Bears way. Unfortunately until the Bears are competing in Europe, the old criticisms will still be used.. we failed to fire any punches against La Rochelle and Leinster which goes to show there is still work to do but both those sides are packed full of elite players so it's not the fairest comparison to expect Bristol to compete with them. I feel Bristol are on the way up though and the best is yet to come. Tom Jordan next year is going to be obscene.


Test rugby is obviously a different beast and does Borthwick have enough time with the players to develop the level of skill the Bears plays have? Even if he wanted to? We should definitely be able to see some progress, Scotland have certainly managed it. England aren't going to start throwing the ball around like that but England's attack looks prehistoric by comparison, I hope they take some inspiration from the clarity and freedom of expression shown by the Bears (and Scotland - who keep beating us, by the way!). Bristol have the best attack in the premiership, it'd be mad for England to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the Borthwick and Wigglesworth idea of how test rugby should be played. You gotta use what is available to you. Sadly I think England will try reluctantly to incorporate some of these ideas and end up even more confused and lacking identity than ever. At the moment England have two teams, they have 14 players and Marcus Smith. Marcus sticks out as a sore thumb in a team coached to play in a manner ideologically opposed to the way he plays rugby, does the Bears factor confuse matters further? I just have no confidence in Borthers and Wiggles.


Crazy to see the Prem with more ball in play than SR!

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JW 9 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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