England are ready to record historic win on New Zealand soil - Andy Goode
There was never going to be a massive turnover in the England squad and there’ll be even fewer alterations to the starting XV but I firmly believe this group can be the first to win a Test on New Zealand soil since 2003.
England have only ever won two Tests away against the All Blacks, the other victory coming all the way back in 1973, so it’d be a major achievement for Steve Borthwick but I think this New Zealand side are there for the taking.
There will obviously be a feelgood factor with Scott Robertson coming in as head coach but that also comes with a period of adjustment and, while there are some very good players in the mix, it isn’t a team that strikes huge fear into the opposition any more.
They aren’t going to be losing any sleep about England either, don’t get me wrong, but the last two games of this year’s Six Nations were encouraging in terms of developing a style of play that can entertain as well as prove effective.
The one main change to England’s starting line-up will of course come at fly half with George Ford, who started all five games in the Six Nations, out with an achilles injury and Marcus Smith has to be given the keys to drive England forward.
Fin Smith has had an outstanding season steering Northampton to the Premiership title but the Harlequins man was always supposed to be the starter ahead of the 2024 Six Nations until injury struck him down.
Fin has only just turned 22, three years younger than Marcus, and it’ll be a phenomenal tour for him to learn on and he’ll get the opportunity to influence games from the bench but it’s time for the more experienced of the two to shine.
It’s amazing to think that Marcus Smith has started just three Tests in the England number 10 jersey in the past couple of years since the 2022 autumn internationals and I think he’s ready to make up for lost time and prove he’s international class.
I think that’ll be the only change to the starting backline from the Six Nations with the rest picking themselves and in the forwards we’ll see Joe Marler and Chandler Cunningham-South coming in for the injured Ellis Genge and Ollie Chessum.
Cunningham-South is only 21 years of age but has been a revelation this season, has experience of playing in New Zealand as a youngster and the opposition’s style and the conditions over there should suit him down to the ground.
The final 36-man squad did more or less pick itself with no real glaring omissions but Ted Hill has to be the unluckiest to miss out after his form for Bath of late. He’s been sensational and only misses out because there are a lot of other back rowers in a similar mould to him who are more established.
The likes of Ben Earl, Sam Underhill and Ben Curry were always going to go, Borthwick likes a heavy number six and Hill did miss quite a chunk of the season before the run-in. I am surprised that Tom Curry hasn’t been given the summer off after his serious hip injury though and that could have opened the door for Hill.
In terms of the game plan, England are going to have to take it to the All Blacks up front, as they did to teams during the World Cup, because that is where this opposition are likely to be weakest but they need to show the ambition we saw against Ireland and France in March.
It’s always tough to strike the right balance and England got results at the World Cup with a limited game plan but they know they can’t go back to that and that isn’t going to get you a result in Dunedin or Auckland.
They have the physicality from the likes of Earl, Underhill, Curry, George Martin and co but Ollie Lawrence, Henry Slade, Tommy Freeman, Immanuel Feyi-Waboso and George Furbank in the backs have the perfect blend of explosiveness and creativity if Smith and Alex Mitchell are given licence to unleash them.
The All Blacks still have superstars like Ardie Savea, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie and co but they are also now missing names such as Aaron Smith, Sam Whitelock, Will Jordan, Sam Cane and Richie Mo’unga for various reasons.
It’d be a massive call to suggest that England are going to win the two-Test series but I honestly think this group is primed and ready to take advantage of the start of an All Blacks rebuild and become just the third English side to beat them on their own patch.
My England XV to face New Zealand in Dunedin
15 George Furbank
14 Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
13 Henry Slade
12 Ollie Lawrence
11 Tommy Freeman
10 Marcus Smith
9 Alex Mitchell
1 Joe Marler
2 Jamie George (c)
3 Dan Cole
4 Maro Itoje
5 George Martin
6 Chandler Cunningham-South
7 Sam Underhill
8 Ben Earl
Well the ABs are starting a new era but it will still be a very strong team. We shall see if England can stand the heat, I suspect we will be a little vulnerable mainly due to combinations forming for the first time in the year, but it won’t be through lack of player quality. If the ABs can click England will find it tough. The NZ teams in Super Rugby this year have been playing a very physical and skillful game that will translate very well to test level and that has not always been true of Super Rugby. There is also a large bevy of new and very dynamic talent. Incredible young guys actually Wallace Sititi, Peter Lakai, Sam Darry a few examples there are quite a few others. Also Samipeni Finau has the potential to be a Kaino. He’s a beast of a player. Ardie may even slot in at 7 this year to allow some of the lose forward talent at 8 to get some runs on the board. Overall England will need to be wary, but we kiwis know how tough they can be too.
poms leading with the lip weeks before kickoff what else is new
Yeah, I thought it was a little bold too! That said, this series could go either way looking at the AB departures, lack of locks, no established 6, best fh in Japan and a new coaching team. Looking forward to a good contest.
‘I think this NZ side is there for the taking’
Which NZ side? The ABs squad hasn’t been named yet.
Hey guys UK, we here in NZ are looking forward to you coming here supporting and playing some good hard rugby.
Agree with Andy Goode selection the one I disagree with is Marler starting think he be better as replacement to have his experience will be invaluable to finish match off
the only time I’ve ever seen Marler play against NZ he’s had his arse handed to him.
It would be really on brand for Borthwick's England to eke out a mediocre win over Japan, get absolutely annihilated in the first test, and then become the first team in 30 years to beat NZ at Eden Park.
this would be extremely on brand - however this is the first time that we are expecting to see any continuity between one campaign and the next, since Borthwick took over, as every other run of matches he has overseen has involved pretty much a complete overhaul of tactics and selection.
with that in mind I think there’s reason to be hopeful that England have finally turned a corner - whether that will lead to a win or not remains to be seen.
Ah yes, Andy Goode. The man who knows what the Ireland players said to Etzebeth after their RWC test.
I would put money on this actually.
Think you’ll find that was his oppo, Jim ‘the gob’ Hamilton…!
Broadly agree with Goode’s suggested started XV, except:
1) Fin should start ahead of Marcus. He offers far more tactical flexibility.
2) Ethan Roots should start ahead of Cunningham-South. CCS struggles to play 80 minutes, so for the time being is better used for impact off the bench.
3) I’d start Ewels ahead of Itoje. There’s no need for Itoje to go over the 2400 minute limit when Ewels has had such a good season.
Fin isn’t as good as Marcus in any aspect of the game right now. Though he’s a great talent, Marcus should start.
Roots just isn’t up to this standard. Shouldn’t even be in the squad - Ted Hill would have been a better choice.
Ewels has 30 caps and I can’t think of a single decent performance. He should be behind Coles in the pecking order.
As a kiwi I would start Marcus
It’s a test match and although we are there for the taking as Goode says we will still be good I think at home
For the same reason I don’t think Razor will make too many bold selections
No chance fin starts against the ABs ahead of Marcus, none whatsoever. How to say you know nothing about England without using those words…
“the Harlequins man was always supposed to be the starter ahead of the 2024 Six Nations until injury struck him down.”
this is such a terrible argument for picking Marcus Smith.
So the decision to put MS in the saddle that was made based on a detailed and extended review of form, ability and gameplan doesn’t count any more…???
🤡😂