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England explain why they have reverted to World Cup back row and kept Ford in reserve

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Eddie Jones has explained his team selection for Saturday’s Autumn Nations Cup clash with Ireland, the head coach deciding to recall Tom Curry and Sam Underhill to partner Billy Vunipola in the England back row.

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The trio emerged as Jones’ first choice back row during last year’s run to the World Cup final in Japan and having helped England win the 2020 Six Nations title, they are reunited after Jones last weekend opted to go with a back row of Maro Itoje, Jack Willis and Vunipola in the 40-0 win over Georgia.

“We feel that is our strongest back row for this game, playing against Ireland who are the strongest poaching team in the world, the No1 poaching team in Europe,” said Jones. “We need an aggressive, low to the ground back row and Sam Underhill and Tom Curry are outstanding in that area.”

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Dylan Hartley and Simon Zebo talk about the Autumn Nations Cup

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Dylan Hartley and Simon Zebo talk about the Autumn Nations Cup

The recall of Curry and Underhill were just two of the four changes made to the England pack. Props Mako Vunipola and Kyle Sinckler have also been selected to start, but Jones resisted the temptation to tinker with his backline even though fit-again George Ford is now available.

“We didn’t think he was quite ready to start,” explained Jones about his decision to only choose Ford for the bench. “He has only done two sessions with us so we felt he needs some more but certainly off the bench he will be very handy for us.

“He is a very, very talented No10. He has been a mainstay of our team. He has played 69 Tests and for him to come on in the last part of the game and add his tactical nous, his tactical kicking, his goal-kicking if needed and his distribution skills are going to be very handy for us.”

Having defeated Italy and Georgia in recent weeks, Jones declared there was an added energy around his squad this week knowing they will be facing a step-up in challenge versus Ireland.

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“Our intensity is always pretty good but definitely there is a bit more edge around the place. All the guys know Ireland is a very tough team. Eighteen months ago they were ranked No1 in the world so it shows you the class and the ability of this team and we know we have got to be at our best to get the result we want to get.

“They are a very well-coached team. I know Andy Farrell very well. They will be well prepared and they will come to Twickenham with a point to prove which always makes them dangerous. It’s the most important game of the year for us and I am sure for them they are treating it exactly the same way. It’s a huge step-up from what we have encountered in the last couple of games.”

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GrahamVF 10 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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