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Fiji coach says there's something familiar about this England team

By PA
South Africa's centre Francois Steyn (R) runs with the ball, followed by (from L) South Africa's centre Jaque Fourie, fly-half Butch James and flanker Schalk Burger during the rugby union World Cup final match England vs South Africa, 20 October 2007 at the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, north of Paris. AFP PHOTO / PATRICK KOVARIK (Photo credit should read PATRICK KOVARIK/AFP via Getty Images)

Steve Borthwick’s England have taken on the personality of the side that unexpectedly reached the 2007 World Cup final, according to Fiji assistant coach Seremaia Bai.

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England have emerged from August’s dismal warm-up campaign to reach the quarter-finals as Pool D winners on the back of four victories.

Sixteen years ago at a World Cup also hosted by France, Brian Ashton’s team overcame a poor group campaign to go within a whisker of beating South Africa in the the final.

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Wins
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Average Points scored
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23
First try wins
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Fiji are the next assignment for England and they enter Sunday’s Marseille showdown knowing they stormed Twickenham less than two months ago.

“It gives us great confidence going into the game that we have beaten them,” kicking coach Bai said.

“But the most important thing in a play-off is that anything can happen so we have to regroup, refocus and we will have to prepare well for this resilient English side.

“They remind me of the 2007 tournament where everybody wrote England off but they reached the final.

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“They have shown how good they are, with players who have played on the big stage. We respect that and take it on board.”

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john 437 days ago

Lol think a visit to specsavers required after last performance I saw nothing I that game to hang any hopes on

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Poe 438 days ago

Is it incompetence?

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JW 34 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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