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England's bench is down 206 caps compared to RWC final, and the number gets worse if Ford is excluded

(Photo by Dan Mullan/The RFU Collection via Getty Images )

Eddie Jones believes the inexperience of his bench for Saturday’s Autumn Nations Cup clash with Ireland is a firm indication of the evolution that has taken place in the England set-up since their appearance in last year’s World Cup final in Japan.

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England lost that decider to the Springboks in Yokohama with a bench that contained 313 caps but that number is 206 less for Twickenham this weekend (107) and would fall even more dramatically to just 38 if the 69 caps which George Ford has were overlooked.

Luke Cowan-Dickie (20 caps), Joe Marler (67), Dan Cole (94), George Kruis (40), Mark Wilson (17), Ben Spencer (3), Henry Slade (26) and Jonathan Joseph (46) were the eight players who featured on the bench a year ago when the world final was lost.

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Slade and Joseph will feature in Jones’ starting XV against the Irish but the other subs from a year ago are absent for a variety of reasons. This has left the coach selecting a bench made up of Tom Dunn (2 caps), Ellis Genge (20), Will Stuart (5), Jonny Hill (1), Ben Earl (5), Dan Robson (4), Ford (69) and Max Malins (1).

Rather than feel pessimistic that his so-called finishers have mostly had little exposure at Test level, Jones instead expressed excitement at the potential they bring as England look to build on their Six Nations title-clinching win over Italy and last weekend’s opening round Nations Cup success versus Georgia.

“That is just how he 23 gave fallen but they do have the ability to do that,” said Jones about the potency he has in reserve for the visit of the Irish. “We’re excited about where the team is going. If you look at that bench and take George Ford out, the most experienced player there, and Ellis Genge, who has played 20 Tests and most of those have been off the bench – it’s a young set of finishers for us.

“It shows the evolution of the team, where the team is moving. It’s going into another generation change and we’re excited about where they can go but we know any generational change in the team is difficult. Experience is a massive thing in Test rugby and you need that time to play Test rugby to get things right consistently. We’re looking forward to that area progressing.”

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Asked about the inclusion of Earl, Jones enthused: “He’s our most versatile back-rower. He can play six, seven or eight or could even play 11 or 14 for us. It gives us great cover.”

ENGLAND BENCH (vs Ireland, November 2020)
16. Tom Dunn (Bath, 2 caps)
17. Ellis Genge (Leicester, 20)
18. Will Stuart (Bath, 5)
19. Jonny Hill (Exeter, 1)
20. Ben Earl (Bristol, 5)
21. Dan Robson (Wasps, 4)
22. George Ford (Leicester, 69)
23. Max Malins (Bristol, 1)

ENGLAND BENCH (vs South Africa, November 2019)
16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter, 20)
17 Joe Marler (Harlequins, 67)
18 Dan Cole (Leicester, 94)
19 George Kruis (Saracens, 40)
20 Mark Wilson (Sale/Newcastle 17)
21 Ben Spencer (Saracens, 3)
22 Henry Slade (Exeter, 26)
23 Jonathan Joseph (Bath, 46)

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GrahamVF 56 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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