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England's embarrassment of openside riches: From a pair of 6-and-a-halves to four out-and-out 7s

(Photo by David Rogers/The RFU Collection via Getty Images)

Eddie Jones believes England are now enjoying an embarrassment of riches at No7, a far cry from 2016 when the coach drilled the Grand Slam-winning Chris Robshaw and James Haskell for not being out-and-out openside flankers.

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Having dismissively branded Robshaw as a six-and-a-half player when captaining England during their 2015 World Cup failure, Jones, who coached Japan at that tournament, became Stuart Lancaster’s successor and went into the 2016 Six Nations bemoaning how the England back row didn’t have an instantly recognisable No7.

He improvised, using Robshaw and Haskell as his flankers, and it culminated in Haskell getting the England kitman to print up a couple of shirts marked ‘six-and-a-half’ for the post-match celebrations after France were beaten to clinch the Grand Slam.

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England boss Eddie Jones explains why he has chosen Jack Willis for a debut start

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England boss Eddie Jones explains why he has chosen Jack Willis for a debut start

Four-and-a-half years later, though, there are no longer any fears that England don’t have what is required from a modern-day openside. Sam Underhill and Tom Curry both emerged in recent years under Jones’ watchful eye, playing a major part in the English run to last year’s World Cup final.

Ben Earl then forced his way into the national squad at the top of this year and he has now been joined by Jack Willis, the Premiership’s current turnover king who will make his England debut on Saturday against Georgia in the Autumn Nations Cup.

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Chris Robshaw and James Haskell celebrate 2016 Grand Slam success (Photo by David Rogers/The RFU Collection via Getty Imagesges)

The availability of all four openside-style flankers has greatly enthused Jones, who claims a change in the attitude towards competing at the breakdown in the Premiership has resulted in this surfeit of talent emerging at England level. “It’s one of the funny things of sport and you see it all the time,” said the coach, reflecting on the selection headache he now has when it comes to the England No7 shirt.

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“You get runs of players in certain positions and a lot of the time it is not because it has been a specific objective of the development programme. If I compare club rugby now to what it was five years ago the breakdown has become massively more contestable which then encourages teams to pick No7s who can contest hard.

“And we have just been blessed by a group of players who have come through at the same time and we get this wonderful competition for places which is what we want. We’d love to have this in every position.”

Scratching the surface as to what each player brings to the England mix, Jones added: “We have got Sam Underhill who is, at his best, probably the best destructive No7 in the world. Curry at No7 is a more constructive No7. We have got Ben Earl at No7 who can play that fast running No7, and then we have got Jack Willis who is again more of a destructive No7.

“The ability to pick the right player for a particular game is gone through the roof when you first consider when I took over the job we didn’t have any guys who were really out-and-out No7s and now we have got four of them. That is promising for us and it just creates great competition.”

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JPM 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

Unfortunately you don't know anything about French rugby, coaches and players but still making a lot of assumptions and judgements to push your prefabricated and simplistic point of view that Dupont is manipulating everything and is a bad guy. I am not a NZ rugby specialist and wouldn't dare make such theories about what is going on within the ABs team. Therefore my advice to you is to do like Dupont and stay humble when you don't know all the background of the issues !!!


Firstly if you knew a bit of Galthié, he is not the type of coach who is going to ask advice to his players and even his captain about team selection. He is as stubborn as you...


Second Ramos has played a lot of times as 10 with Toulouse and therefore Dupont (in particular when Ntamack is injured and unfortunately it has often happened recently and for long periods). He even played 10 during the last 3 games of the 2024 6N and this was far better performance than the first two games with Jalibert as 10.


Thirdly Jalibert lacked of respect to a La Rochelle player so your theory is once again out.


Fourth as I explained to you Galthié went for a 6-2 bench and Jalibert can only play 10 which doesn't fit that plan. Furthermore as 15 Buros is better under high balls than Ramos and everybody is prepared for a tactical kicking game.


So you can blame Galthié for a lot of things (as you clearly enjoy doing at the end of your post and you should be very happy as an AB fan) but certainly not Dupont. Sorry once more for your conspiracy theory.


And don't worry about potential disharmony in the French team; they are excellent mates around their captain. Jalibert is well known in the French rugby circles to have not a strong character (and we saw that in the WC quarter finals as he is very nervous in any decisive international game unlike Ntamack and Ramos as for his late penalty kick vs England this year).


In conclusion enjoy the game tmrw night. It is good that the ABs are very upset; we should watch a great game of rugby. I hope for running rugby and not too much kicking. With 5 key players injured on our side (Ntamack, Baille, Atonio, Cros and Penaud) and 2 on your side I and various French fans see you as favourites. I obviously hope for another result.


If you are interested you can read a good article in the Guardian on the subject of France-NZ games.

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KB 2 hours ago
The 'one difference' between Boks and the back-to-back All Blacks

Consistency hasnt been there they have many great players SA were also not unbeaten in the 2023 WC - NZ were in 2015 WC McCaw and Carter Nonu and Smith - SA did not have those Marque players in those postions in 2019 or 2023 - I wouldnt rank them ahead of the 20I5 ABs - They clocked up 60 points against France in the QF - Furthermore I do not believe for one moment SA won 2023 fairly no way - they were so favoured it became obvious that behind the scenes SA the nation bought the title - Their last 3 matches were won by a solitary point there were many contentious decisions that went their way that it became obvious it wasnt coincidence - Sport has been hijacked by a satanic cult just as is Politics

Some players coaches officials and sponsors are involved - they know who they are - its called Freemasonry - any sport that allows betting is corrupt - its not all about money either for these parasites its also about control - Lots of American NFL players have spoken openly about games being scripted - Football is also rigged Referees have been caught on film showing freemason hand signs - The 95 RWC final ranks as the highest and most obvious attempt at cheating There was no way SA were going to allow NZ to gate crash Nelson Mandelas reunification party - NZ were so good they had to posion almost the entire team to get a 3 point win - a Hollywood Movie ( theres your Red Flag ) was made about SAs triumph called Invictus


William Henley wrote a poem called Invictus


It starts


Out of the night that covers me BLACK ( All Blacks ) as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever GODS maybe for my unconquerable Soul ...( Olan says INVICTUS is an evil Malevolent entity who corrupted the Titans ... this is Mandelas double meaning speech ( hes a fraud ) - of thanks for helping overcome SA's adversary NZ - There is only ONE true God Yahuah - Only a false god would be complicit in Cheating Corruption and Harming others to win a RWC for a sick and sinful Nation ) the poem ends with


I am the CAPTAIN of my soul


SA will forever bear the stain of guilt and disgrace over their involvement in poisoning the ABs a day before the 95 RWC Final

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CO 2 hours ago
Forget Ireland, the All Blacks face the real alpha of Europe next

I cannot believe that you don't think the French rugby team coach and captain are not discussing putting Jalibert on the bench in favour of Duponts club teammate that doesn't even play at 10.


This is a terrible, massive insult to a 10 and I'm sure Dupont would also be very enraged if benched for a player that doesn't even play halfback.


A good captain would've insisted to the coach that it was an idea of madness and either select Jalibert or replace him with another 10 if you want him to be reserve.


Jalibert may not be the world's finest tacklers but that's often not a tens main strength that the loose forwards and second five cover. An intercept pass is never great but they happen.


When any player is playing for his club then it's club first, respect doesn't need to be shown to opposition players simply because they're internationals.


Who exactly are you claiming Jalibert hasn't respected? If it's Toulouse international players then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this bench demotion out.


The outcome of selecting Jalibert to the bench and he then throwing his croissants out the window of the team bus immediately prior to playing the Allblacks is a disaster that will be team disharmony as any team mates of Jalibert are in a state of anger and revolt so a performance that will be sub optimal against a team that is thirsting for revenge against France.


I don't know about you but the Allblacks are very upset they've lost twice in a row to France and want to put out a statement performance so this preparation by Galthie of creating havoc looks to me like a coach that is clueless.

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